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[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 168 points 1 year ago

Hope the lawsuit exposes them more. It should be 100% illegal to be anonymous to be part of a domestic terrorist groups our a hate group like this. Do what Germany does with nazis.

[-] jwiggler@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

I mean, I hate white nationalism just as much as the next guy. But if you go around making it illegal to be anonymous or part of a particular group, whether they're considered terrorist or otherwise, that's bad. It gives the next party in power precedent to make being part of your group illegal. That's why freedom of speech is so important.

I think associating with a group that believes in the creation of an ethnostate should remain legal so that associating with a group that believes in the dismantling of capitalism remains legal.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

I think associating with a group that believes in the creation of an ethnostate should remain legal

So long as the group explicitly says they do not condone violence and they want to achieve their goals through purely peaceful means. If they want to deport everyone who "isn't them" to establish an ethnostate, that's one thing. But killing everyone who isn't them to create an ethnostate is very different and crosses the line.

The same would go for dismantling capitalism. Winning elections and passing laws to achieve that is very different from a violent overthrow of the government.

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

Why the fuck would wanting an ethnostate magically become okay simply by wanting it done through peaceful means?

The abortion bans were imposed through "peaceful means".

Peaceful does not mean good.

Also countries can and do ban hate groups while allowing other speech. It is possible to have your cake and eat it too. It is possible to define something by observation alone.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I never said it was good. Just that if we're going to be cautious and not outright ban it, then we will need to draw the line at violence.

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