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Hateful people will find each other regardless of my or anyone else's views on free speech. Very ominous statement though.
With that said:
Forcing the discussion into the open is not where any hate group wants to be. It forces them to find proof and facts where there are none. It makes them look bad.
Alright so expand on this:
We're half way there. Why couldn't they do what they were doing before?
Edit: If you're going to drop an ambiguous nuh uh, because "reasons" ...and then be unable to expand on that after 5/6 hours - perhaps be clearer in your argument. At present it looks a lot like you're attempting to muddy a discussion with unverifiable nonsense.
So lets boil this down -
With you so far - clearly. I think my comment was: Forcing the discussion into the open is not where any hate group wants to be... [continued]
... which is exactly what free speech enables. People say shit - other people respond. Freedom of speech/expression does not mean everything said is 'okay' or 'legal' - it means you are protected in your right to say it. It doesn't protect you dealing with the backlash of saying something stupid or hateful. How people choose to respond to it is also a freedom: and most people do not care for nor tolerate hate groups. It works itself out... and from the statement you made: I think you get that.
People frequently will say freedom of speech allows for hate speech - and reality is simply that you cannot stop hate speech from happening no more than you can stop any other crime. You can punish it though - after the fact. We cannot prevent things that haven't happened yet. This isn't minority report - we don't have espers or precrime.
...Which is the point I was making. So to be clear - you disagreed with my statements because...?
You keep saying this and not providing any credible points as to why two unrelated things are, indeed, the exact same thing.
This is, in essence, the jump you are making. If not - detail for us - how you prevent hate speech. No generalizing.
Aaaand go: ⏱️