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[-] zout@fedia.io 1 points 3 days ago

In exchange for relenting, Hungary got EU officials to make a noncommittal statement on the importance of Ukraine’s energy infrastructure — an oblique reference to Budapest’s concerns about the end of Russian gas flowing through Ukraine.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Will one or the other of you stop with the cryptic Redwall geopolitics-riddles and just tell me what the fuck you're talking about?

It sounds like you're saying that Hungary got bribed to make this decision, in some way. Yes?

Edit: If you don't feel like navigating the labyrinth of replies below, don't bother. Neither of these people ever get to the point, and eventually they wander away, with one complaining that I "do not argue in good faith."

[-] zout@fedia.io 3 points 3 days ago

The quote I gave is from the article you linked, if my comment is cryptic to you I'd suggest reading the article again? Orban threatened to veto unless Ukraine agreed to get the Russian gas flowing again, so the EU threw him a bone.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 0 points 3 days ago

How does wanting some lip service to be inserted into the agreement, to at least ally to some performative degree Hungary's concerns about where their energy is going to come from if it can't be Russia, translate into "pockets full of cash"?

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

The "cash" is for his political career, not himself if course. Could have worded that better.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 3 days ago

So he's trying to do popular things, in this case by being slightly cautious about the energy supply for his country on behalf of his constituents, and you summarized that decision with "pockets full of cash"? "Cash" meaning his political career. Have I misunderstood something?

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Slightly cautious?

He's a massive POS and blackmails things like this out of the EU, usually using vile ways like this one. Or do you think he legitimately thought Lukachenko won the "election"?

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 3 days ago

It is incredibly difficult to get you and the other person to explain what you mean.

Can you simply explain what you mean by "things like this"? And "vile ways like this one"?

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I feel you do not argue in good faith.

Look up Orban in the news the last 3-4 years if you are sincerely interested.

[-] zout@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago

It's called sealioning. Draw your own conclusions.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah I figuerd it would be that. Thank you for taking your time!

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm not "argue"ing. I'm asking what the fuck you're talking about, because I cannot make any sense of what you keep vaguely hinting at. Why that is offensive to you, I have not the slightest idea, but okay.

[-] zout@fedia.io 1 points 3 days ago

Don't ask me, ask @Valmond@lemmy.world

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 0 points 3 days ago

I did, and for some reason, you answered. So you weren't trying to answer the question "Allegedly by who?" when you replied to that question?

I'm sorry if I seem prickly about it, but vague insinuations of corruption which then evaporate into silence or deflections when questioned even slightly seem like kind of a bad-faith thing to throw around. Right?

[-] zout@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago

I answered your question "Allegedly? By who?", not the one regarding the "pockets full of cash". But I'm sorry for trying to answer you, it won't happen again. Also, here's a reel of a sea lion for you.

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