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Since Trump, I'm finding the Lemmy.world experience to be increasingly akin to an echo chamber and it's quite frankly starting to bore me. (Inb4, I'm a left winger and I don't like Trump, but I'm much more interested in a good spirited debate or novel points of view than I am in Orange man bad Nazi circle jerks)

If I wanted the same repetitive comments to be upvoted and any different opinion at all to be downvoted and even blocked/banned, I'd have just stayed on Reddit.

Are there any instances where different, opposing and novel points of view are celebrated and debated rather than simply derided and downvoted?

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[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago

I belive that I have more freedom in (unregulated) capitalism that’s not state backed

All capitalism is state backed, by definition.

[-] OlgaAbi@lemmy.ml -1 points 5 hours ago

uhm nope it isn't, in fact a lot of economists are against the state (eg: ludwig van mises)

also everything is bad when state backed imo, even communism

or as I tend to say:"I like my communism the same way I like my toilet: without the state watching over it"

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

I don't think using the guy who thought economic planning was impossible because there's no way an individual person can plan an entire economy by themselves is a good representation of a valid viewpoint. Like, Mises had a comedically awful conception of Socialist economics from square one.

As for Communism, the State can only be abolished fully when class antagonisms are abolished, and such a status can only occur when everyone across the globe equally owns all property across the globe (or as close to that as is possible). Until then, however, there will be classes, and thus a state, so you can't just get rid of the state outright unless you wish to return to hunter-gatherer style economics, or if you are okay with classes in your conception of Communism by turning everyone into petite bourgeoisie, equal owners but within their own communes exclusively.

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