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[-] Mereo@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

Think about it this way. It's a social project. Everybody does their part to help. If they can only help once, great! If they have time to help a few hours a week, great! If they want to help in a significant way, great!

With these social projects, the most important thing is to help, even once.

[-] MJBrune@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Except for decades if you tried to help but you were even so slightly wrong the lead developer would yell and swear at you and tell you to never program again. Social projects need better leaders than what Linus was.

[-] GizmoLion@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

You're right he can be a bit crass without needing to be. The outcome of his methods is exemplary, though.

[-] MJBrune@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

At every place I worked the motto for hiring has always been, you could be the best person in the industry for this job but if you're an asshole we don't want to hire you. I can't agree more with that. I don't care how good his code is, if he's an asshole then I don't want to submit to his project. He's like the Elon Musk of Linux. We don't need to support those types of assholes. I wouldn't do paid work for Twitter or Telsa because of Elon, I ain't going to do work for Linux for Linus.

Also, one person is not the life of a project but they can define the project's culture. If Linus wants to write Linux all himself with a cult of followers then sure, he can have a slightly more successful version of TempleOS. He's still not going to attract the world of developers out there that are far better as a whole and more successful as a whole than him. He proudly defines and encourages this toxic culture and it keeps very talented developers away. Frankly, someone should fork the Linux kernel and create a non-toxic work environment for people.

[-] GizmoLion@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Why not be the change you wish to see, then? Fork it, and surely they will come.

That or Linus' work is of high enough quality that people are willing to put up with his crass behavior.

Also, somewhat unrelated, but comparing Linus to Elon is a nonstarter. Elon has money, but contributes little more than ego past that. Linus, on the other hand, actually gets his hands dirty. I don't care for his behavior, but I do respect someone who actually does the work.

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