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[-] rarbg@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 weeks ago

Lmao they went to Bluesky, a centralized (don’t get pedantic with me) social media platform controlled by Americans. Genius

[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

People go to the platform that's easy, attractive and works, instead of the very beautiful, finely crafted, exquisite solution that requires days of reading followed by fiddling every other day to barely get the same immediate result, assorted with hidden surprises like hidden moderation and silent failure situation that leads to fragmentation of the whole network. What a surprise.

Also, "don't get pedantic with me" does not sit well with the current goals of bluesky. Sure, right now, they focused on making something that works and is usable by everyone. Whoop fucking doo, that's exactly what mastodon/lemmy/most activitypub services skipped. And that's why the general public look at them with contempt. I can't see the future (maybe you can, lucky you), but for now, bluesky works, and the plan they're still following up to now is aimed toward a decentralized solution.

[-] tabular@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Wikipedia says "direct messages are offered though a central service". If that's was/still is correct then you're correct, it's centralized.

Nuance is the friend of truth - pedantic.

[-] exu@feditown.com 1 points 4 weeks ago

The whole algorithm (AppView) is centralised. While it's technically possible to host with enough capital, a second AppView server would also double bandwidth required for every message sent on the network. This gets worse the more AppView instances you add, as every message has to be sent to every AppView server (exponential growth)

[-] mac@lemm.ee 0 points 4 weeks ago

Thats the same issue with activity pub, is it not?

[-] exu@feditown.com 1 points 4 weeks ago

No, ActivityPub only send messages to the recipients. Uninvolved servers don't get the message at all until one of their users explicitly searches for it.
In the worst case where every user has their own server, one message per recipient is sent. Adding another recipient on their own server means one more message being sent and so forth.

[-] lurklurk@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago
[-] dnzm@feddit.nl 0 points 4 weeks ago

From boiling water into water that happens to be in a switched-on kettle. Huge improvement.

When the enshittification comes (when, not if, they'll have to drag their feet to move somewhere else again. All their followers will have to follow them again. Had they moved to a proper open solution, they could've stayed there indefinitely.

It's not just about Bluesky" not being the proper and pure solution", it's about this being a temporary measure at best, and people don't seem to realize that.

[-] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Gosh I know, moving from a social media platform where its owner sig heils to a platform where its owner does not is just as bad. You're either trolling or an idiot.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 4 weeks ago

From boiling water into water that happens to be in a switched-on kettle. Huge improvement.

It IS a huge improvement.

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