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If you think you have ever felt true fear, you havent tried Gentoo yet

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[-] Twinklebreeze@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Why would you run -Syyu? -Syu is what you want 99% or the time.

[-] JaddedFauceet@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Noob here what is the difference?

also why would an extra but the same character y make a difference? Is that common in the arch linux ecosystem?

[-] Twinklebreeze@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

The y argument tells pacman to update the package list. This is so your computer is downloading the new packages instead of old ones from last time you updated it. The second y tells it to delete the old package list and download it from scratch. This is useful if pacman isn't working correctly. Maybe the files got corrupted. But it wastes more resources for the repo so it is not recommended as a default.

[-] JaddedFauceet@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Oh wow, I have always thought the y stands for "yes to any questions" turns out it has a --noconfirm

Should have read the man page......

-y, --refresh
           Download a fresh copy of the master package databases (repo.db) from the server(s)
           defined in pacman.conf(5). This should typically be used each time you use
           --sysupgrade or -u. Passing two --refresh or -y flags will force a refresh of all
           package databases, even if they appear to be up-to-date.
[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 12 points 1 week ago

Y is a mnemonic for Refresh, of course!

[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

Not everyone uses their computer all the time.

[-] 30p87@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago

Still no reason ... unless the repo is volatile, and potentially you have a corrupt version, a simple -Syu is always enough.

[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

Over a year, many repos become relative volatile.

pacman-keyring or what that package is called gets stale really quick over longer periods of time. Large updates are quite smooth in Arch, but IIRC, -Syyu has helped me before.

[-] deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 3 points 1 week ago

The extra y just forces a database update. The mechanism to detect when not to update the database is a simple timestamp compare, and shouldn't break. archlinux-keyring might need a "manual" update if an Arch Linux system is left without updates for a longer period of time. That's the only situation doing pacman -Sy, then pacman -S archlinux-keyring is recommended, and it needs to be followed with pacman -Syu to avoid a partial upgrade.

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