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newly uncovered photo of Tiananmen Square, June 4th 1984
(hexbear.net)
whoops no this is UC Davis in 2011. the cop pepper spraying these nonviolent student protestors filed for worker's compensation claiming "psychiatric damage" due to having his name released and won more than $38k USD in compensation.
I went down an internet rabbit hole the other night trying to find the true source of the g*re images most commonly attributed to events in Tiananmen Square. I made like no progress after an hour, but one thread that stuck out to me was on the subreddit /r/MorbidReality, where a mod said the images were proven true by a reliable source, but their source was just a link to the search results from typing "Tiananmen Square" into gettyimages lol
Like not even a specific image, just the landing page for searching a keyword on a stock image site...
If the proof of burden is on those alleging a massacre of (tens of) thousands of civilians, you would think they would do more than share like a small handful of images, most of which come with no easily accessible or verifiable context/explanation. it's so weird.
edit cause the thread is still new-ish: if a user can shed light on the original source(s) of the images I'm describing can you please share so i can find intellectual closure on them?
And the evidence that this didn't happen, in addition to the accounts of western reporters physically present in the square who said no one died and there wasn't much violence in the square, is the like thousands of people who were students in the square at the time and don't understand why Americans are so obsessive about it.
~~Chinese~~ British Whispers.
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/china-1989-tiananmen-square-protests-demonstration-massacre
My response with tons of sources, another thread, someone's other post, and you choose only to respond to this single comment not by refuting their complete rebuttal of your argument but by linking a new source with no comment as if this is something you can do, like you don't have to address the thing you just said that was proven to be complete nonsense. Do you actually believe your own points?
As with your poetry nonsense, we have to reply to the new source you cited too or you won't get it (you still probably won't). And from Amnesty International! The group that upheld the faked Iraq baby testimony used to push for the war in Iraq; the group that was advertised by the CIA; the group whose Board of Directors is filled with World Economic Forum hacks (Christopher Schlaeffer, Anjhula Mya Singh Bais, Alexandra Durbak) and a former CIA (NED) employee (Louisa Greve) Most of the article is uncited hearsay as per (their only source is two accounts, a quota which has already been met and exceeded by the sources we provided). Here’s a few provable lies in the article:.
this is a complete lie
complete and utter lie, we can even look at Chinese state media mentioning and addressing it
CPC News: Centennial Events of the Communist Party of China
People's Daily: Memorabilia of the Communist Party of China 1989
China.org.cn: China Rejects US Statement on 6-4 Incident
China Daily - Tiananmen Massacre a Myth
China Daily: What's Wrong With Our Liberal Studies Courses?
(all accessed through baidu)
Already proved this wrong in my other comment
This is literally just the same kind of shit with anonymous claims and no sources, we have photos from the square right the morning after with no signs of such a large scale massacre, do you believe the Chinese have some unnatural power to clean up the square and ensure no photographic evidence of the massacre actually exists?
they probably do, many would rather construct a world conspiracy with no sense or evidence than leave the liberal world framework
I am begging you to go to Beijing and ask people what they think of the June 4 incident.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/may/30/ma-jian-tiananmen-square-remembered
So is Gulag Archipelago, doesn't stop libs treating Solzhenitsyn's drivel like it's holy scripture
not only do you not read our links, you don't even read your own. embarrassing.
No it's not. No one cares and folks don't understand why Americans are obsessed with it.
As long as the Chinese government censors the topic, it's hard to know what exactly happened and what didnt. We are left with political statements and third-hand "knowledge". Which isnt ideal.
Definitely. I dont even know where these rumours originate from, but I've heard them often enough online and a lot of people seem to believe them although even western-based encyclopedia etc clearly state the opposite.