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We have a perfectly functional, highly modern and universal debit card system in Germany, girocard. It's when I'm in other EU countries that the downgrade to the visa/mastercard networks takes place. Transfer fees are between the seller and their POS provider/bank, but generally cheaper than handling cash. It piggybacks on standard wire transfers, which are unified in Europe (via SEPA).
It's also where a lot of the "Germany only does cash" myth comes from. No, the restaurant isn't accepting only cash they realise that you're a tourist and only have a credit card which is a hassle (and chargeback risk) they don't want to deal with.
That one card does contact & contact-free payments, it's your ATM card, and second factor for online banking.
If German cooperative, public and private banks can agree on a standard why can't the rest of Europe just take it up, just as they do with various DIN norms. We've had this shit since the 80s, growing out of ATM cards turned into cheque guarantee cards.
seems like a nationality thing? or at least he was implying french and italian people wouldn’t “because it’s german”
I just don’t quite understand how it’s 2025 and these standards are just finally on the verge of potentially being started
It would be the French or Italians paying with French and Italian cards which happen to follow a German standard. There's no one German company behind it, it's an interoperability standard set by the whole German banking industry. Who are very much open to take other banks on board, publish everything very openly, don't demand license fees for those standards, whatnot.
Spaniards definitely manage to give out Girocards to their German customers, both Santander and PNB Paribas are playing on the German market. I bet they also offer the standard HBCI (or whatever it's called now) software interface so you can hook it up to your accounting program etc. It's a standard feature in German banking, even the bank's web interfaces use HBCI on the backend to talk to the mainframe.