So unless the progressives can force a realignment along some new issue and subsume a major party, creating another party would just be handing a lot of elections over to the Republicans.

This is why lemmy was so vehemently against Jill stein and the greens even though most people on here agree with her politics more than kamala, because they saw her as sabotaging the democrats chances and handing the election to trump.

This sounds like living in a perpetual state of short term gain long term loss. Change won't happen over night, and you may lose a few elections in the short term, but ultimately you'll establish a party you actual want to support instead of one you're kind of willing to tolerate.

I'm not going to criticize Jill Stein or her party for voting based on their beliefs.