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Not really "powertripping". Just pathetic. Consider this a notice to avoid feddit.org... I've unsubbed and blocked the instance.

We can't dehumanize fascists for their choice to dehumanize everyone for things outside their control though, because that would be mean, and hurt their sociopath feefees!

Europe stool idly by throughout the 1930's "tolerating" fascism, and the Nazi's killed over 100 million people. Don't make the same mistake as the radical centrists of history. Fascists will not afford you the same tolerance or courtesy.

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[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Holocaust as a mass murder wasn’t planned until 1941

400,000 people were sterilized in 1933. Gas vans were killing mental patients in 1939. The Einsatzgruppen were traveling with the army in 1939, shooting Jews en masse in some cases. "Aktion T4" was put into practice in 1940, also with mental patients. Eugenics scholars had been talking about exterminating those with inferior genes since 1920. The deportation to Madagascar was talked about under the assumption that the harsh conditions and lack of civilization would leave most of the Jews to die "naturally." Deliberate starvation in the ghettos killed tens of thousands of Jews before a formalized "final solution" was planned for. And so on.

Not sure how you got that my "ramping up" description was misinforming people. That's what happened. As much fun as this is, I have completed as much of this conversation as I want to have.

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

400,000 people were sterilized in 1933. (...)

Again, your point is? Mass murder of Jews wasn't planned until 1941. In 1940 Nazis were planning mass deportations to Madagascar. These are facts, I am not sure what is you are trying to achieve here?

Furthermore, your comments only support my point as the goals escalate: Trump is attempting mass deportations now - like nazis were going to just before Final Solution

If someone was to kill Hitler, neither WW2 nor Final Solution would have happened.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Actually, hold on. Maybe you'll lose focus if I mention the mental patients.

The Einsatzgruppen were traveling with the army in 1939, shooting Jews en masse in some cases. The deportation to Madagascar was talked about under the assumption that the harsh conditions and lack of civilization would leave most of the Jews to die “naturally.” Deliberate starvation in the ghettos killed tens of thousands of Jews before a formalized “final solution” was planned for. And so on.

How's that?

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Sure, let me try one more time.

Gas vans were killing mental patients in 1939. The Einsatzgruppen were traveling with the army in 1939, shooting Jews en masse in some cases. “Aktion T4” was put into practice in 1940, also with mental patients. The deportation to Madagascar was talked about under the assumption that the harsh conditions and lack of civilization would leave most of the Jews to die “naturally.” Deliberate starvation in the ghettos killed tens of thousands of Jews before a formalized “final solution” was planned for. And so on.

Happier with that presentation? It concerns mass murder only, I removed the two sentences that added additional context but not specific actions of mass murder.

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

Again, what is your fucking point here?

That Nazis planned Final Solution before 1941? That's not true or at least historians didn't find any traces of that.

That political goals escalate and mass murder start with smaller goals? Yes, 100%:

Hitler started with eradicating Jews from public life, then planning to deport them, then murdering them.

Trump started with eradicating migrants from public life, he is now deporting them. Go figure what's next.

Hitler wasn't assassinated before he started a war killing millions. There was a chance but it didn't happen. Killing a potential mass murderer is definitely a lesser evil.

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