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[-] expatriado@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago

quite vocal about how the world should be organized, but forgot to pay the domain dues

[-] m_f@discuss.online 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

DNS is neoliberalism incarnate ๐Ÿ˜‚

DNS is the most neoliberal shit system that too many have just accepted as how computers work and always worked to the point where I have heard actual landlord arguments deployed to defend it

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 17 points 2 months ago

I like how a whole community of academics and researchers worked out how to run a system which, even into the modern day which is kind of amazing, is largely disconnected from being abused by government and industry, and just runs according to what the people who need to use the system need it to do. You can get extorted for a fancy domain name if you really want to, but you can also go to Hostinger and get one for $5/year or something, because a lot of the core of the system is still pretty well-protected from being a cash-grab, through application of good governance and cooperation.

And then, somehow Hexbear managed to find their way around that system and fucked things up for themselves, and now it's all DNS's fault that they stepped in a pile of doo doo.

Never forget the architects of the internet were some of the vilest US MIC and Silicon Valley ghouls who ever lived and they are still in control fundamentally no matter how much ICANN and IANA claim to be non-partison, neutral, non-political, accountable, democratic, international, stewardshipismists

Yes, John Postel and David Mills were some of the vilest ghouls and so on. There was nothing about them that could provide a good model for how to do effective cooperation and succeed outside the systems of ownership that defined computing and telecommunications at the time, no particular reason they succeeded so dramatically and gave you, ultimately, this space to post pig balls today, and nothing about their work and traditions that needs to be defended against any silicon valley ghouls in the modern day. You fucking dingbat. I started out sticking up for you guys because no one deserves to get victimized by DNS scammers, but I take it back, go fuck yourselves.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 3 points 2 months ago

I mean... OK then just remember the IP addresses of the sites you use and don't use the domain names?

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 0 points 2 months ago

That will be a problem for sites that are all hosted on one IP address where the server figures out what site you want by the client's request string.

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

I wonder if they tried to pay it with a signed note by their mother and a chuck-e-cheeze token with 'payment in full' scribbled across the note in red marker.

[-] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org -4 points 2 months ago

In a good internet, you shouldn't have to pay someone else for your own identity.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 9 points 2 months ago

You don't have to pay anything to have your own identity.

If you want someone else's servers to replicate a piece of information for you, and you want them to take responsibility for administrative issues like figuring out whether you still want it next year or what to do if you're doing something illegal, you may have to pay anywhere from $5 a year to $30 a year for the privilege depending on a couple of factors. Given how massively inflated the price of registering a domain could be, if the type of ghouls who like to get their hands on things like this were able to get their hands on it, I'm inclined to call that success. About 99% of internet users will never need to know or care about DNS, and they can still have their identity without having to pay $30 a year.

I'm pretty sure the price of domains has actually been going down over time, and they've introduced a bunch of new TLDs and new types of entries in the records in response to pretty much the only significant problems that the 40-year-old system has ever had during its history. Like I said, I'd call that success.

this post was submitted on 11 Feb 2025
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