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okie dokie, thanx! I was just wondering since I just read something about beehaw communities shadow banning if I sign up for certain other communities and was wondering if that had something to do with it. Reference: https://lemm.ee/post/547600
Due to the nature of Federation, don't hesitate to make accounts on different instances as needed to access that instance's content. I reckon a number of people have accounts on Beehaw and accounts elsewhere.
Agh, I'm not excited about having to do that. I like to keep things simple.
beehaw is kind of a weird oddity in the fediverse. Most of the other main instances are federated.
I personally just view beehaw as a separate thing - I block their communities so I don't accidentally participate, and I use lemmy.world as my home instance to browse everything else. works fine for me. I see you're on lemm.ee, which is also a low-drama instance that federates with everyone, so you don't really have any issues there :)
Yea unfortunately the nature of Federation means that instances (servers) are dissociated from each other but nonetheless communicate with each other via a standardized protocol. Consequently, there is nothing stopping one instance from saying they want to stop communicating with another instance
In some situations that makes sense. For example, if you are running an instance and don't want to get people/content from another instance that posts incredibly hateful messages, you can choose to defederate from that instance.
In other situations it creates complications. For example, if you are on a somewhat popular instance (like Lemmy.world) but then get defederated from an instance you want to participate in (like Beehaw.org), even if the defederation came from justifiable reasons, you will need a Beehaw account in order to view that content as you won't be able to access new content from Beehaw.org using your Lemmy.world account.
For the most part, in pragmatic terms what this really means is if one wants to participate in the most active instances, they'll probably want an account on an instance that federates with the biggest instances.
One small correction, you will still be able to see posts on beehaw from lemmy.world but if you comment on something there they won't see it.
Only accounts on your instance will see it, because everyone else gets contact for that community synced from beehaw.
You don't need a beehaw account to participate with beehaw, you just need an account on an instance they federate with. Which is almost all of them, except world, sh.it, and a few others
Yeah that seems like a huge hassle :(
I thought the same thing but the WefWef app lets me save my 3 Fediverse accounts and switch easily, idk if it would be same for any other apps though. This way if an instance decides to defederate I can still access their content separately.
Just wait and the problem will resolve itself when proper mod tools are released and beehaw refederates with open instances. In the meantime you can still read and interact with beehaw posts, but only with a separate copy of the post which is only seen by other lemm.ee users. The post you linked to creates a false sense of urgency where unless you can interact fully (i.e. as if beehaw is federated with lemm.ee), then there's no situation where you should read or interact with those posts at all, or that you can't interact at all. That's not really true, as some comments on the post pointed out
I'm pretty new to all this, but I'm assuming that subscriptions are instance account specific. If there was a way to sync subscriptions between accounts in different instances then that would be good, but I'm finding that without subscriptions the default feeds are kind of all over the place.
Yep.
So I have one primary account on Lemmy.world and then have additional accounts localized to those instances.
For the time being things are a bit of a hassle because there's no good way to migrate from one instance to another and bring your data with you, and the underlying lemmy software is still in development.
Effectively we're doing this in production!
Beehaw isn't happy with how the other instances moderate there instances so they blocked themselves off from several instances I say just except there choice the vast minority of the fediverse does not do that honestly you aren't missing much let go of the fomo
Beehaw does tend to block other instances for content, but that's not common. Most instances only block for abuse. If you want to make sure you can talk to a community on another instance, check the Instances link bottom of page. It shows you what's linked and what's blocked. You need to do that both on your local instance and instance hosting your community of interest.
Oh. I guess that's why a few subs I submitted to some communities there have been pending for days now?