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If you're Anti-NATO then you're Pro-War
This absolutely make no sense. NATO is a pro-war organization that for a century fueled wars and violence to preserve its member wealth and authority.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio
"According to several Western European researchers, the operation involved the use of assassination, psychological warfare, and false flag operations to delegitimize left-wing parties in Western European countries, and even went so far as to support anti-communist militias and right-wing terrorism as they tortured communists and assassinated them"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_War
People like to pretend the government its their friend and that the army job is to defend innocent people but look around, poor people live in misery and the only thing being protected is corrupted politician's ass and their friends mega corporations.
In attempting to describe what NATO is, maybe try not to go all the way back to the cold war. NATO is a defensive alliance and a weaker NATO makes war more likely.
The organization didn't change. The italian government that was shaped back than still exist today as the current ruling party is hereditary of the figures involved in the organization i linked.
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/P2
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licio_Gelli
Also don't forget that between the cold war and now there have been dozens of wars and conflicts
Not many things are the same as they were during the cold war, obviously.
Got anything in the past, say 20 years, that would validate your description? In terms of NATO's actions, rather than vague hereditary claims?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steadfast_Defender_2024
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_missile_strikes_in_Yemen
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Wikileaks_cracks_NATO's_Master_Narrative_for_Afghanistan
Fun Fact, a NATO response requires all of its members to fight together as one. The Yemen strikes was an operation supported by 8 of its members, not by NATO. In much the same way, US invasion of Iraq was not a NATO response and in fact several NATO members condemned it when Bush attempted to invoke article 5 after the World Trade Center was destroyed, but I still think that would have been a much better citation for you to use.
Not sure why you're including an exercise as "proof" of NATO being "pro-war" but ok. Especially one performed in response to Russian aggression. I do know why, it's because you're grasping at straws.
These missile strikes in Yemen weren't NATO, and were a justified defense against attacks on cargo ships regardless.
And then a wikileaks link with nothing of substance.
So you've got nothing to justify such a ridiculous claim, even when given 20 years to go back to.
Do you think Russia is an aggressor/pro-war imperialistic country?
Open and read the links instead of skipping them and perhaps you will understand and get a better picture of what nato is and what they do. What you are dismissing as "vague hereditary claims" are court cases in italy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trials_and_allegations_involving_Silvio_Berlusconi#Propaganda_Due_(P2)_trial:_False_testimony_(1989)
Practicing war and wasting billions in doing it through all the year to me enter in the definition of being pro-war or i'm gonna assume during these exercises they practice hugging and making peace with each others.
Not NATO but a coalition of countries members of NATO which means that if the houthis attack them back they are attacking NATO...
"Nothing substance" that points out yet another wrongdoing of an organization you are claiming to be good.
I didn't claim "everything NATO ever did is good", nothing meets that standard. You're the one still failing to prove they're "pro-war" and dodged the question about Russia. Nice try vatnik.
Lmao what a dumbass
NATO is the worlds largest mutual defence pact. The entire reason Russia was able to invade Ukraine was because Ukraine had never joined NATO.
You sound like a bully, just like NATO
Oh those bullies preventing China and Russia from attacking whoever they like. How dare they do that? /s
“According to several Western European researchers, the operation involved the use of assassination, psychological warfare, and false flag operations to delegitimize left-wing parties in Western European countries, and even went so far as to support anti-communist militias and right-wing terrorism as they tortured communists and assassinated them”
You want to talk about psyops and delegitimizing the left wing, China helped elect Donald Trump. China actively props up their allies Russia and North Korea.
Ever notice that all of your supposed stances and concerns are directly opposed by every action the people you support are taking?
Excuse me who i'm supporting?