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[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago

The problem is the down ballot. I'm having trouble believing that a whole lot of people went out there and voted for Trump for president, and Democrats everywhere else.

I understand staying home. I understand voting Republican. But lots and lots of split ballots?

[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 31 points 11 months ago

A decent number of trump voters only voted for Trump. They left the downballot blank because they don't really care about anything but Trump

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago

A disproportionate amount...

Only in swing states...

Just enough to not trigger an automatic recount...

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 17 points 11 months ago

Part of musks "outreach" plan was reaching low propensity voters and telling them essentially "don't worry about the ballot if you dont know who else to vote for, the most important thing is voting for Trump."

That's why we saw a lot of "bullet ballots."

There were also a lot of idiots who voted for Trump and their local Democrat. AOC had this happen when talking with her constituents. She said their response was "you're both (seemingly) authentic, Trump and you are real where everyone else in Washington are fake, greedy, lying politicians."

There really are just a metric fuckton of idiots out there that don't pay enough attention.

I don't like Trump's weird remarks about Elon knowing voting machines, but I really don't think they rigged this election by that method.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Voters are so desperate for authenticity, they're willing to vote for an authentic piece of shit like Trump. Fuck.

[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It wasn't by a large margin - the swing states were a lot closer than people think. Its just that the shift nationally was a pretty uniform making the results in the overall electoral college look less close than each state was. Each swing state was within 1-3%, so small differences to splitting or not filling out the ballot mattered way more here leading to split results

The swing states actually moved less to the right compared to 2020 than the rest of the country in 2024. Probably because of more campaigning in those states

EDIT: Also for an example with some specific numbers, let's look at the Wisconsin

President race

Trump - 1,697,626

Harris - 1,668,229

Third Party - 30,015

Senate

Baldwin (D) - 1,672,777 [ 4,548 fewer votes than Harris ]

Hovde (R) - 1,643,996 [ 24,233 fewer votes than Trump ]

If we assume no split ticking, that would mean ~1.4% of Trump voters and ~0.2% of Harris voters in Wisconsin likely left the down ballot blank

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, sure. But we saw a gigantic increase in split ballots.

[-] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago

Orders of magnitude more split ballots than any other election.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

Have you met anyone that did that?

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