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What is the end game?
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Oh I do. The USA is a country that has Russophobia built into its institutions and social fabric, that has a spy network that has been operating continuously since it was formed post WW2, that controls more money, more arms, and more territory than any other country. It has assassinated more people, overthrown more governments, dropped more bombs, and killed more people than any country in the world since WW2. It has the most powerful companies, the most powerful billionaires, the most billionaires, the most billionaire-friendly laws and politicians. It has the world's reserve currency that every other country has needed to obtain in order to buy oil. It has destroyed entire countries for trying to prosper outside of its rules. It regularly imprisons or kills anyone that would threaten it even a little bit.
There is quite literally no path by which Russia could make the USA a vassal state. Russia has nothing to offer the USA billionaires, Russia's military and military intelligence had to be reorganized 30 years ago after the USSR was dismantled. Russia doesn't have the continuity that the USA does. It does have the money, it military, the resources, or the influence to make the USA a vassal state. The anti-russia CIA has had plenty of opportunities to put their thumb on the scale with Trump. They have not. Trump cannot get richer by becoming a vassal to Russia. But even if he could, there are far more billionaires running this country that would not benefit from becoming a vassal. And yet, there's not one of the powerful people trying to stop him.
The business plot in the USA shows just how organized and powerful the rich can be. They organized and were planning a coup in the USA so they could become more like fascist Germany, not to become a vassal, but to organize society to their benefit and ally with Germany.
You think billionaires would cheer on the USA becoming a vassal to a smaller, weaker state?
Russia can offer nothing, Russia's intelligence cannot overcome the CIA domestically, and the USA is the best place for the rich and powerful to be.
It is literally impossible for the USA to become a vassal of Russia
The KGB hasn't existed since 1991.
And no, compromising our president is NOT the only thing that a foreign actor would have to do. They would have to outmaneuver the entirety of the CIA working to prevent EXACTLY that situation from ever occurring. They would have to somehow stop the CIA from stopping such an agent at every possible step of the way over the past 12 years. You are living in a magical sitcom fantasy land where the bad guys are trying to get the McGuffin and if they do - GAME OVER, MAN. That's not how reality works.
It is interesting. It's almost as if US policy has shifted its position regarding Russia and the president is aligned with that policy.
You have no idea how influence works, do you. Sure, Trump is a laughing stock. You still can't buy oil from OPEC without USD. Most nations still have billions of dollars in the US economy, and particular in US bonds. Most nations operate under USA-favorable conditions dictated by treaties with USA back with credible threats. US intelligence still operates the 5 Eyes, still runs the terrorist networks all over the world, still educates and trains the world's most deadly death squads. Yes, Trump is a laughing stock and the USA still dominates the globe and EVERY SINGLE NATIONAL LEADER has to consider the USA when choosing their words and their actions.
Pure young adult novel fantasy writing. It's just so incorrect and all the evidence of history shows how incorrect it is. You just can't imagine any other way that US foreign policy would suddenly change and desire an alliance with Russia the only thing you can come up with is a paper doll fantasy.
You do realize that the reason the CIA has a dozen different classifications for information is so that no single person or group ever has 100% of the information required? The agency is organized to survived the constant change of president. It couldn't serve its function otherwise. So yes, Trump has chosen a cabinet of "loyalists". Do you think all of those people are compromised by Russia? Or do you think that they all believe they can get more power if they turn the USA into a vassal of a smaller nation? Or do you think every single one of them is stupid?
By the by, how did Trump find all these loyalists? What did he offer them and how did they meet? Did Trump's real estate dealings and golf outings put him in touch with these people? Or is there just a huge pool of power brokers out there just waiting to take the world's richest and most powerful country and try to gain more money and power by subjugating such a country to a smaller, weaker, poorer country?
It's very easy to dismantle your fantasy by considering that other people also have agency and aspirations and asking yourself why anyone would be loyal to Trump if Trump is acting out of complete desperation because he's been compromised and if his choices lead to a worse outcome for the business community and the intelligence community, both of which are communities who assassinate people for far less urgent reasons on a regular basis.
Ah yes. Your analysis is so thorough. Also, the only people who could possibly disagree with you are paid to disagree with you by a nation with far less money and far smaller intelligence capabilities and far less globally effective operations than the one in your home country. Classic.