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[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The history of large phones, from a technical standpoint:

  • LTE required a lot more power than 2G/3G until efficiencies were improved, this required a larger battery to have comparable battery life, doubly so on the phones that ran two modems (mostly Verizon) one for 3G, one for 4G
  • LTE required larger antennas as their low band frequencies were lower than previous cellular tech. (750MHz and later 600MHz vs 850MHz being the old lowest)
  • Handset manufacturers then stopped making smaller product lines even after efficiencies improved
  • People ("consumers") realized they'd rather not buy a phone, tablet, watch, computer, anal implant, and preferred to just buy one device, settling on an oversized phone was enough between phone/tablet that they only needed to waste money on one device
  • The market then went, "people prefer larger phones," even though smaller phones were waning/outliers
  • Tablets outside of Apple's ostensibly died, although there are a few more choices these days that aren't Apple
  • Now phones have so many antennae
    • WiFi/BT (which are often shared)
    • WiFi 6 new band
    • NFC
    • Wireless charging coil
    • Ultra Wideband
    • 20 or 30 various cellular bands with 4x antennae for MIMO
    • mmWave (in America)
  • Phones also have gigantic camera systems (although since Samsung gave up on 10x optical, they shrunk slightly on that platform)
  • The cycle repeated itself a bit with 5G, the channels are so wide and huge, they can suck a lot of power when doing large data transfers, and also the addition of needing a separate amp/chip for 5G above sub6 as well as additional cooling
  • "AI" stuff that requires more ML compute, and thus cooling and battery capacity, even though again, nobody wanted it
  • All the metrics and analytics handset manufacturers constantly run on users, disabling all this alone would probably make your average phone last 3+ days

Since then, more and more people are trying to get flip phones, dumbphones, imported small phones, or giving up on phones entirely and switching to devices like the Lilygo T-Deck LoRaWAN device that has...dun dun dunnnnn....a literal BlackBerry keyboard, as people are sick of that fabled market deciding for them.

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

The people switching to dumb phones is a very small market. Apple probably sells more iPhones in a day then dumb phones sold in a year.

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