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This is not a valid argument and also you are quite ignorant of what's everywhere and what is dead.
The other way around technically, one came before the other and was a more mature system, with ongoing lawsuits however.
Also SunOS 4 and Ultrix are BSD, if you didn't know. Commercial high-end OSes before Linux even started. About "poor alternatives".
You don't know what you're talking about, anything but this argument. BSDs' design decisions allow them to solve the same problems orders of magnitude cheaper (in human effort) than Linux. That's how they still survive.
Under FreeBSD there are GEOM, netgraph, properly working ZFS since long ago, proper separation of base system and packages, the ports system, Linux emulation for legacy software, all orderly and clean. Under Linux the horrible mess starts with Debian netinstall.
By the way, you don't even know your own team, Eric S. Raymond of the "cathedral vs bazaar" glory notoriously disagreed with you, despite the comparison being supposed to put Linux on top. His point was that if you allow thousands of monkey developers, they might not do things so well, but they'll do so much more that it's justified, and thus Linux wins due to having shittier architecture, but developing faster.
Go use Windows then, it has almost perfect hardware support.
So Google uses GPL code responsibly, right? Microsoft? Apple? Meta?
This argument is obsolete.
I dunno where the circus is, but the clowns are already here.
I don't want to continue this useless conflict, your comments read as if chatgpt wrote them.
Just a few bits to help you:
UNIX obviously was more popular than specifically BSD UNIX, but you don't seem to understand that one is a subset of the other. You might want to read of "Unix wars" and how BSD UNIX became just BSD and then a bunch of *BSDs.
Minix was an education kit.
You are, in fact, using mostly non-free firmware, as in "binary blobs", for a lot of your hardware to function under Linux.
You keep writing such sentences about four distinct operating systems, each with its own advantages and disadvantages.
This sentence means nothing.
I said it's enforceable and they are still using it just as "responsibly" and they do with BSD, MIT, ISC licenses, which is the point.
OK, done
You seem to think Unix is one system. You also seem to think *BSDs are not a branch of Unix.
You don't seem to learn.
How old are you and what's your intention in behaving this way? Just interested.
Plenty of Afghan goat farmers have been around since ATnT Unix was a thing, this doesn't mean they know anything about Unix.
You've made a lot of factual errors showing that you don't know what you're talking about, you also haven't specified even once which specific period hides under "that time" in your claims.
You've claimed that Minix ever was a popular system, you've claimed that "BSD" is some alternative to Unix separate from it while it's simply Berkeley Unix that dropped the Unix trademark due to litigation.
Solaris, HP/UX, Irix are Unix System V, which was sort of a merger of ATnT Unix and BSD.
So BSDs are literally just Unix (Unix of Theseus so to say, code from BSD that moved to commercial Unix remained there, but code from ATnT remaining in BSD had to be rewritten after the lawsuits, I've read it wasn't much).
Bill Joy of Sun Microsystems is also one of the main people behind BSD.
Also throwing insults doesn't make you more persuasive, when you are not even close to knowing the subject. I'm trying to help you, but I don't want to spend more effort.