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[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 130 points 3 months ago

This is misinformation. They added the login requirement for their Generative AI and the actual notepad doesn't require a login. But I guess we're ragebaiting today.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago

Upvoted for visibility.

I recommend Notepad++.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

I use Kate on the windows work pc

[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

I love Kate, but I've only been using it since last August. Been using npp for a decade before that, even as my IDE, and I felt like it was stronger than Kate.

Kate has a lot of features that are not well documented or that you have to tape together to make something functional, while npp just works out of the box or with one of its many addons. Additionally the Kate documentation website is atrocious, lacking even basic search functionality. I had to join their IRC channel to get help figuring out something (path to some obscure config file that the latest version actually reads from), and while they were most helpful, I really shouldn't have had to go through all that trouble.

Maybe my approach to trying to solve a problem was wrong, coming from Windows + npp.

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[-] gencha@lemm.ee 22 points 3 months ago

Having this LLM bullshit in Notepad should be the real news

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[-] LittleRatInALittleHat@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

Is the Genevieve AI enabled by default?

After opening the notepad app does it ask you for that login?

Is your access to notepad restricted by the login?

[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"But it turns out that, while this screenshot is indeed real, those eagle-eyed enough should already be able to tell that something isn't quite lining up here. In fact, nearly any Windows 11 user could open up the fully updated Notepad without getting this pop-up at all, even if they aren't already signed into a Microsoft account. So, what's the deal here?"

"The key is in the exact wording, identifiable within the first sentence: "Sign in with your Microsoft account to use Rewrite and its features in Notepad." This is a prompt that exists, yes, but one that's exclusive to Copilot+ PCs and explicitly requires the user to trigger it by clicking the Rewrite button, as confirmed by our own testing."

https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/no-notepad-for-windows-11-doesnt-require-you-to-use-a-microsoft-account-unless-youre-trying-to-use-ai

https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows/seen-those-complaints-online-about-having-to-sign-in-to-your-microsoft-account-to-use-windows-11s-notepad-app-its-all-a-load-of-hot-air

Please read the article. No. My access to notepad is not restricted. I also don't run any copilot features of any kind on windows 11. Yes, I believe Generative AI Copilot is enabled by default, but in this case the only time you get prompted to login is when you use a feature in notepad that directly needs copilot in order to work and you the user have to select that feature. Meaning you can use notepad without it entirely and never even see this prompt at all.

Microsoft is a tech giant with all the bad crap that implies. They do enough terrible things that we don't need to lie to make them look bad.

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[-] Etterra@discuss.online 39 points 3 months ago

Well it's a good thing there's no shortage of free replacements.

[-] Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago

My understanding of the different operating systems

MacOS: One time hardware payment for their service (plus for every other device)

Linux: Free as in price free and freedom

Windows: 30+ subscriptions to edit 1 file, then cooldown till next day or upgrade subscriptions to enterpise version for a kidney/per user/per month.

TitleChomeOS: Communism for the children, supported by the Education System

[-] zqps@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 months ago

Apple heavily pushes their users towards iCloud subscriptions. More so on iOS than macOS but still.

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[-] horse@feddit.org 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

imo macOS is better value than Windows. A Windows PC of similar quality to what Apple offers (built quality and specs) is not that much cheaper and with a Mac you get a ton of actually usable software included.

Obviously FOSS still wins offering a ton of good software for free, lots of choice and the option to choose from hardware at any price point. But Windows is just bad unless you're an enterprise user or gamer (and the latter is changing fast in Linux favour).

[-] Mistic@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Have you ever built PCs? Macs are significantly more expensive for the same spec

The rest I agree with, it doesn't help that Windows has been steadily going downhill with each new version...

[-] horse@feddit.org 4 points 3 months ago

I guess for desktops you have a point, especially if you build it yourself. I was thinking of laptops mostly and also considering the build quality and things like the keyboard/trackpad, screen and speaker quality. If you want something comparable running Windows the price difference isn't going to be massive.

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[-] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 3 months ago

Are people just going to keep reposting this misleading shit headline of a post until no one reads the article and just goes along with it?

Are the people constantly reposting this even reading the article and realizing how illiterate they look?

[-] snuglylimes@lemm.ee 15 points 3 months ago

The click bait will never die my friend.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

We should never tire of pointing it out though.

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[-] yggdar@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago

The title is quite sensational compared to the content. They only added an AI Rewrite feature for notepad that requires a Microsoft 365 subscription. Considering the cost of AI, and the fact that it will very probably run in the cloud, it is very reasonable that it isn't free. Everything else about notepad remains free / included with the price you paid for the OS.

[-] Noedel@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago

I agree, but the idea of adding AI to notepad is quite insane in its own right

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Adding layers to paint was what surprised me

[-] DemonVisual@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

That's actually very nice, one of the few Microsoft programs that I genuinely miss - layers are a quality of life feature that is actually really nice to have 👍

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[-] Psythik@lemm.ee 26 points 3 months ago
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[-] Majorllama@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago

Microsoft what the fuck are you doing.

You fucking idiot's.

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[-] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 20 points 3 months ago

Finally, I can proudly proclaim that I'm no longer bound Microsoft's bullshit. Been a rocky start, but I've been happily using Kubuntu on my Surface for a while now, and it's going awesome

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[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It should be noted that you can still use Notepad without a Microsoft account

Despite the ability to still use the software without an account

Are we not doing context anymore?

What is this? Just outrage for the sake of outrage?

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago

Exactly. The issue is that it's a freemium model, where they advertise a product with additional features in Notepad. But Notepad itself is still free.

That's still bad, but so is the title.

[-] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Don't take this the wrong way, but it's hard for me to contain my incredulity: have you been asleep for the last decade? Has a very obvious pattern of enshitification not been constantly proven as a rule on the tech sector? And an article is... outrage?

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[-] Xanza@lemm.ee 17 points 3 months ago

The year of the Linux desktop has arrived.

[-] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Oh god, how will replace a completely basic word processor? Surely there are not numerous replacements?

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 months ago

It's so stupid that they're making these additions to notepad. There is a need to have a basic text editor on an OS that isn't going to try to "help" by giving recommendations, automatically backs up files or whatever other shit they're trying to jam into it.

They had wordpad and if they wanted to add additional features into that, that's completely fine. There are use cases for something that does a bit more than a simple text editor like notepad can do.

My guess is that they tracked that people used notepad more often than wordpad so they removed wordpad. Then started making notepad more like wordpad without considering why people used notepad more frequently.

[-] Emerald@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It is batshit crazy. Notepad was never meant to be what they are making it into. Not even WordPad should have AI nonsense. It's just not for that. It would be like adding advanced spreadsheet functionality to Microsoft Word. It's not what that's for, you have Excel for that.

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[-] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Fucking click bait garbage article, but thankfully the article has a tldr at the top that basically contradicts the headline and saves you minutes of time to realize you've been baited;

TL;DR: Microsoft has introduced a paywall for Notepad, requiring a Microsoft 365 subscription to access new features like the AI-powered Rewrite tool.

Better headline: Microsoft forces you to pay to suffer through using their AI tool that no one asked for, application otherwise unchanged.

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[-] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

So, turns out that they final push that convinced me to start learning Linux is the ol' Text Document.txt of all things. Swear to God, I thought that it would be the automatic updates nuking my unsaved work (again), but here we are...

[-] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 10 points 3 months ago

Notepad++ is way better anyway

[-] RedIce25@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago
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[-] the_doktor@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 months ago

How much shit are people going to endure before realizing Windows isn't for them any more?

Dump the damn thing and use Linux. Yes, Linux is friendly, easy to use, you can play most games, you don't need your proprietary programs because there are Free alternatives that are just as good that might take you a moment to adjust to (don't cry about how it's different, that's Baby Duck Syndrome), and so on.

And Microsoft facilitates fascism and government spyware and all sorts of evil crap. So does Apple. And Google. Throw away your phone, use Linux on your PCs, free yourself.

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[-] MichaelScotch@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Fine. Notepad++ is better anyway

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[-] benjaminb@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 months ago

After taking a look at the pictures of the article, I noticed “requires AI credits”. Credits?! What is this now? Some shitty mobile game? Really, Microsoft isn’t ashamed of anything anymore…

I mean, I don’t know about Microsoft and windows, so maybe this is different, but the name sounds crazy!

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[-] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Linux

End of conversation.

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

I think that's the start of the conversation. Which Desktop Environment?

[-] EarlGrey@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 months ago

I want a clean, advanced, well designed desktop and Im okay with redoing my work flow

Use Gnome

Gnome is cool but can it be slightly more Windows?

Use Cosmic (PopOS)

I want lots of customization, advanced features, and a traditional windows desktop metaphor

Use KDE

I want Windows and don't really care about customization

Use Cinnamon

Dude the Windows 9x look was fucking dope

Use Mate

Im installing this on a potato

Use XFCE

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[-] mfat@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

Time to try my newly-released text editor lol.

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