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[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 5 points 6 days ago

No, Biden supported genocide. They did messaging you didn’t agree with.

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 17 points 6 days ago

Okay, let’s play infantile, pedantic word games.

I tend not to agree with people who won’t make a clear, strong, ethical stand against genocide. Fuck me, right?

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 11 points 6 days ago

Anyone who didn't vote against Trump refused to make a clear, strong, ethical stand against genocide.

The messaging which hammered constantly, to a certain audience, on Biden's complicity in Gaza, was a big part of the effort to get Trump elected. No one knew that he came out swinging for working people in a way that hasn't been seen since LBJ. No one knew that he took the biggest action on climate change of any American president by almost ten times over. Everyone on Lemmy knew that he was sending Israel weapons, and we heard it every single day.

Is his refusal to break with half a century of American foreign policy which is enabling of genocide, even in the face of an escalation of the genocide and the clear appearance of its finish line on the horizon, a stain on humanity? Sure. Absolutely it is.

Harris didn't do that, though. The messaging which was originally deployed against Biden (to a certain audience on the activist left; to other audiences it was that he wasn't doing enough to support Israel or he caused inflation or something else), switched over to Harris with barely a blip, and for some reason people didn't notice. So no, I am not proud of you for your principled stance, no.

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