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submitted 5 months ago by ex_06@slrpnk.net to c/solarpunk@slrpnk.net

On this server we are often victim of this stuff, i hope we can all improve

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[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 41 points 5 months ago

I think a lot of places that prohibit talking about violence are supporting the horrors. Like, it'd be swell if we could vote ourselves out of this mess but that seems like a long shot, and a lot of damage would be done before that even started to take effect.

I get most of us don't actually want to risk our lives. We don't want to be the one guy who throws a molotov and gets shot by the police.

But shit is really bad, and at the end of all things might makes right. Principles and philosophy don't matter if you're dead.

I think everyone's thought about like "what if i went back in time and shot Hitler before things got really bad?" Well, that's now. You've arrived at the time travel destination.

I don't really want to live in a world where republicans are shot dead, where the prosecutors putting people in jail for protesting are murdered in their sleep, or where the owners of a factory that pollutes the air we breathe are beaten so badly they'll never walk again. But I also don't want to live in the world those forces will create if left unchecked.

Besides, the right has been using stochastic terrorism for years.

[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

But shit is really bad, and at the end of all things might makes right. Principles and philosophy don’t matter if you’re dead.

Not necessarily. There have been some successful non-violent revolutions in history, and there's a strong case to be made that not exhausting those options could be a huge mistake.

We still have, right now, completely un-used tools at our disposal, such as unionizing en masse and deploying a general strike, which is insanely powerful (capable of bringing a nation to its knees if done widely enough), while being far less dangerous and more appealing to the general populace than any other means.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 19 points 5 months ago

To be clear, I support other options like a general strike and unionizing (though I think forming a union is only a bandaid on top of the evils of capitalism, it's better than nothing).

I don't think "just vote for the democrats in 4 years" is a viable strategy on its own.

But even so, these have to be backed by might. If you do a strike and they send police to do violence to you, you have to be ready to fight back.

[-] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago

It's also important to remember that there is no magic bullet. Nothing is a viable strategy on it's own.

It's my own personal conspiracy theory that our natural hesitance to throw resources at unknown variables is being amplified by the ruling class and fed back to us in the form of the all-or-nothing perfectionism I've seen a lot this past election cycle.

We need to be building with the blocks we have, and Theil et al are using the fear of failure to encourage us to fight each other about whether we should use square blocks or rectangle blocks.

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