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[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

See you might have voted for Harris but people who go online and read comments like "Fuck the Democrats" and "Democrats are Centrists" didn't. People didn't vote for Harris because of shit like your comment.

[-] voldage@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

People didn't vote for Harris because her campaign sucked ass, it's her and her staff who failed to convince people to vote for her, not people who voiced their dissatisfaction with her proposed policy. They need to do better, and if they do, then people excercising their freedom of speech on the internet won't sway votes away from the party. Idea that people shouldn't be allowed to complain about the genocide because it voices loudly the dissatisfaction over the party actions and that may lead to lower voter turnout is flawed to it's core. Those comments are the symptom of the problem, the sign that there is something wrong with the way they directed the campaign, not the source of it. You will get nowhere by silencing the dissidents, you need to take away their reasons to complain, not their means. Until Dems learn this lesson, they won't win elections again, not with the antiestabilishment vibes and lack of trust towards the government that are prevailent im USA. Not only this messaging of censure won't work, it will only piss off the electorate and alienate them further. Before the elections I have assumed that this campaign to shame people into voting was a psy op, but it seems like it's actually their position on the matter, which definitely makes me think they're controlled opposition at this point. They can't actually think this kind of messaging helps them in any way, right? This arrogant approach is specifically why Republican electorate hates them. If they want to win, like, ever, they need to work on that.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I'm sorry their message didn't vibe with you but the Harris policy stances were all on point, minus that shit Walz had to say about Israeli borders. But the vast majority of Americans seemed unaware of the policy stances being on point because of the constant whinging of people online about how they don't trust her.

Here is an idea, buy Twitter, Meta, Google, WaPo, and TikTok and start propagandizing like the GOP had on their side. She'd probably win by 20 Mil minimum. That's how fucking easy it is to trick the USA, not even any politics involved, just fuck with the kid's vibe feeds and watch them destroy themselves. Even talking with you lowers my faith in humanity.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Here is an idea, buy Twitter, Meta, Google, WaPo, and TikTok and start propagandizing like the GOP had on their side.

I've recently come around to this idea and I can't believe we haven't seen it more often. Facts don't matter. We need the media, in the unlikely event our democracy limps past this administration. We MUST control the media. That is LITERALLY all that matters.

[-] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 1 points 4 months ago

If a Democrat's billion dollar war chest can't stand against an anonymous online person saying "Democrats are centrists" maybe they shouldn't be centrists.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

What about a hundred million anonymous online persons?

[-] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 0 points 4 months ago

If a hundred million of your constituents are asking you to do something, fucking do it. A candidate can tell their base to shut up, but expecting them to still turn out, as we just saw, is a fantasy.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

The majority of people shitting on dems were not dem constituents. They were Republicans. An unfortunate number were dems but far from a majority, going by primary results for the last two decades.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

There's a lot of cocky talk from you about majorities from someone bemoaning an electoral defeat across the board.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Look at this dude, proudly declaring the left's defeat to Republicans. You some kind of conservative?

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

The idea someone would not vote because they read "Democrats are Centrists" online is funny to me.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Millions of people who voted for Biden in 2020 did not show up to vote for Harris in 2024. Trumps numbers hardly changed at all.

It really is that simple, no enthusiasm among the left due to infighting and degrading our candidate.

this post was submitted on 04 Mar 2025
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