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[-] Turret3857@infosec.pub 115 points 4 months ago

I voted for Kamala. My parents and grandparents did as well. I do not feel that the democrats were/are doing jack shit to court new voters. The party itself expects to just be the status quo and have people vote for it. Whether people want to admit it or not, the point of being a progressive party is to be... how do I put this... PROGRESSIVE.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago

Oh yeah, make no mistake, the Dems are fucked.

It's just that in '24 we had an option between "continue having a flawed democracy" and "put a literal fascist in power", and a lot of us are still sore over folks who insisted that choosing the latter was some form of leftism. They weren't a major force in the general electorate, but here on Lemmy, they were certainly loud, so a lot of bad feeling remains.

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[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 13 points 4 months ago

Very, very well put. I voted for Kamala as well, and this is what I'm trying to scream from the rooftops. The democrats seem to see the current populist moment as an excuse to phone it in. It keeps blowing up in the face, and they keep saying "oh well, I guess we need to move right / let the voters learn their lesson"

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

The party itself expects to just be the status quo and have people vote for it.

When the alternative was Trump and Project 2025, that's exactly what most should have voted for.

But stopping DEI was more important than Social Security for the majority of voters

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 12 points 4 months ago

Peope can't afford their bills and the Democrats were out there saying the economy is stronger than ever. They had no intention of helping people and you are shocked that people didn't go out to vote. If it's damned if you do, damned if you don't, most people will chose the latter

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

It was stronger than under Trump. Everyone forgot they had to fight for toilet paper under Trump.

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[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

I could be wrong about this: But I increasingly feel that the major issue for most of these people was economic instability - not making enough to make ends meet. But, out of a feeling of humiliation around saying “im poor” the message instead targets points of blame; either to potentially spare more dollars for themselves, or just genuinely to lash out at a world that’s succeeding without them.

Doesn’t make the approach of their message in any way valid or okay. I’m just explaining that they needed an answer to their struggles. Trump gave them an elaborate lie about it, which to them was better than nothing.

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[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 50 points 4 months ago

Both can be true you know

[-] missingno@fedia.io 49 points 4 months ago

Did the DNC's strategy work? No? Then the Democrats were wrong.

It's their job to convince voters to vote for them. And if they won't take responsibility for failing at their job, then they're on course to do the exact same thing in 2028 and get the exact same results.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

It’s their job to convince voters to vote for them

Everytime this topic comes up it reminds me of incels whining no women wants them...

They don't want to change anything, they don't want to compromise, they want a participation trophy for just existing. What's insane is that's been the strategy for the last three presidential elections.

And if they won’t take responsibility for failing at their job, then they’re on course to do the exact same thing in 2028 and get the exact same results.

The new DNC chair has been very vocal about what the problem is, how to fix, and is already running the same playbook that solidified his home state blue.

The DNC is basically the chair, and we just got a much better chair than we've had in decades.

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[-] eksb@programming.dev 38 points 4 months ago

"Democrats are not doing enough to encourage people to vote for Democrats." is a warning, not a threat.

People who make and post memes like this seem to think that the people complaining about conservative Democrats and pointing out problems in the party are not voting for Democrats. I think they largely wrong about that. We are voting for all Democrats all the time, but warning you that your messaging sucks and you are not going to get the turnout you need. It is not our fault we were correct.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

Wrong! ANY criticism of the party means you’re a secret maga Russian plant. The democrats are perfect and don’t need to improve in any way!

/s

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[-] Godofdirt@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago

Yeah that is the level of self awareness that created this bullshit. Fuck the Democrats. To be clear I voted for Harris but t Still think the Democrats suck

[-] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 4 months ago

Imagine posting this meme when just today the DNC have announced their “new” leadership and it’s just the same as the old leadership, and they’ve done absolutely nothing to push back against Trump this whole time.

Just like they would have done nothing when Trumpists did a violent coup if the voting results were different.

Liberals only differ from fascists in degree, not the kind of ideology they follow.

[-] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 months ago

Degree of minorities murdered matters.

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[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 32 points 4 months ago

Broadcasts from the future:

Wednesday, November 8, 2028: The democrats, running a Mike Pence and Mitt Romney ticket, have just lost to the a copy of Grok 3 trained on the transcripts of all of Donald Trump's, uh, speeches, and its running mate, Eye Fuckskulls, the modern leader of the Aryan Brotherhood. After having a completely fair primary in which their super delegates all reported that they would vote for Pence on day one, and all the other candidates, each having won one or two states, dropped out and pledged their votes to Pence after he won the absolutely critical state of New Hampshire, the democrats were sure of their chances with this centrist ticket. Many democrats expressed befuddlement that they lost ground in every demographic, although some strategists see a glimmer of hope in that they managed to pick up sixteen disaffected Republican voters nationwide. Some voters seemed to think that the democrats didn't make a case for why they should vote for Pence and Romney instead of Grok/Fuckskulls, but democrats disagree. "It's hard to know for sure, but my guess is that it's time to move past unpopular far left policies like only executing 100 detained immigrants a day, annexing only half of Canada, and limiting involuntary Tesla Factory labor to only the poorest Americans" said one democratic strategist.

"Stupid fucking leftists, progressives, and non-voters, Pence/Romney 'Atheist Genocide But We'll Say Sorry While Doing It 2028' was the best chance we had at restoring the republic, the damage that Grok and Fuckskulls will do is immeasurable. I guess they're just going to have to learn to vote blue no matter who in 2032!" Yelled another exasperated democrat on the TrumpNet (tm), America's isolated and heavily censored internet network.

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[-] anas@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago

As an outsider, I think you’re not on the side of the meme that you think you’re on.

If not voting for Trump wasn’t enough for Harris to win, she sure didn’t act like it. “Nothing to change” from the policies of the guy who was forced to step down wasn't what the people wanted to hear.

[-] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 months ago

I mean he was asked to step down because of the worry that his mental faculties, not due to his policies. Remember, it was right after his first debate with Trump. The following debate, Kamala roasted Trump.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 8 points 4 months ago

Yeah, except for the whole genocide thing. But mostly college kids protested that. You can just beat up those.

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

I’ve been voting blue no matter who for 25 years and it didn’t stop this shit

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 4 months ago

40 years and it's worse.

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[-] Majorllama@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

Even the existence of the phrase "vote blue no matter who" is a dead giveaway as to why the Democrats failed... Again.

You cannot run entirely on simply not being the other party. That is not enough to entice voters on the fence. You might think it is and those people on the fence are too stupid so they should just "vote blue no matter who", but clearly that hasn't been fucking work for the Democrats.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 21 points 4 months ago

You ignore one simple fact.

The GOP always votes Red, no matter who.

It takes two sides to have a reasonable discussion, but only one side to start a war.

It's a war and you've been invaded.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 4 months ago

The GOP always votes Red, no matter who.

They literally don't though. They voted for Trump because they liked him, not because he ran as a Republican. There's that phenomenon where Trump voters also vote for candidates like AOC or Bernie Sanders, so... Yeah.

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[-] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 4 months ago

I voted for those assholes up and down. They still suck.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 20 points 4 months ago

Non-contributing rage bait. The Democrats were wrong. The Democrats still are wrong. And the Democratic presidential candidate was infinitely better than her opposition.

Nuance motherfucker do you speak it.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 months ago

Nuance motherfucker do you speak it.

"If they dislike my party, they must support the other party, nothing else exists, right?"

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Elections are a popularity contest with weird rules more than anything....

But the DNC kept trying to force uncharismatic candidates with conservative policy down voters throats, and stole funds from state parties to focus on that costing us down ballot races making losing have even more consequences.

They haven't just been putting all our eggs in one basket.

They put it in the basket of a 20 year old shitty child's bike and then put Biden on and pushed him into the interstate.

Voter can't fail a party, but Dems have been failing their voters for decades.

I'm optimistic Martin will change that, enough to give him a fair shot and not just a month.

[-] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Dems have absolutely been failing to be an effective political party, but good lord I'd rather have the milquetoast incompetency on democratic control of the government than this abaolute shitshow that Republicans have been running for the last... God it's only been a month and a half since the inauguration.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Milquetoast incompetence makes them lose elections.

Them losing elections allows republicans to have a shit show.

Then the Dems get a modicum of power and do milquetoast incompetence again, and the cycle repeats.

It’s been this way my entire life.

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[-] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

This is definitely a liberal take. I don't agree with those who didn't vote for Kamala, but removing responsibility from people running her campaign when there are obvious glaring issues such as retracting all populist messaging and appealing to non-existent right wingers voting against Trump was a real stinker to say the least. It's okay to blame politicians who didn't win for not winning.

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[-] procrastitron@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

The democrats objectively were wrong.

They lost the election.

That’s the only measure of right or wrong that actually matters.

They literally had only one job and they fucked it up again.

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[-] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago

Or, you know, be the party that at least promises popular things, instead of the party that just exists in idle opposition.

At least we'll never have to worry about Dems after 2026. Maybe some better parties can take hold

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[-] cybersin@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago

The democrats were wrong, they fucking lost!

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