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submitted 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) by faab64@social.vivaldi.net to c/palestine@lemmy.ml

Where is the outrage? Where have all the "humans" gone? Israel slaughtered over 300 innocent civilians in Gaza last night. Most of them women and children.

None of those with #Ukraine, #Canada, #Mexico and #EU flags on their profile raising their voice condemning this outrageous crime.

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The sheikh wandered around the city with a lamp

I'm tired of all the devils and the death, and seeking one human

They said it cannot be found, we have searched, As we said before

That which cannot be found I desire

Rumi
دی شیخ با چراغ همی‌ گشت گرد شهر
کز دیو و دد ملولم و انسانم آرزوست

گفتند یافت می‌ نشود جسته‌ ایم ما گفت
آن که یافت می‌ نشود آنم آرزوست
#poetry #Rumi #Gaza #Inhumanity #Death #politics #Israel #Genocide #WarCrime
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[-] Zzyzx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 88 points 19 hours ago

"In order for me to write poetry that isn't political, I must listen to the birds, and in order to hear the birds, the warplanes must be silent." -Marwan Makhoul

[-] faab64@social.vivaldi.net 36 points 19 hours ago

@Zzyzx

I'm so disgusted by hypocrisy of all the blue MAGAts so disgustingly silent about Trump bombings of Yemen and massacre in Gaza

These hypocrites were so loud about tariffs against Canada and Mexico

[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago

it's because they are terrorists

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

Indeed, which is ironic, given that their justification for their campaigns of extermination in the middle east is always "but Arabs are terrorists!"

[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world -4 points 2 hours ago

yeah more like just hamas and houthis and their supporters

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago

Yeah yeah, just like Nelson Mandela

[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world -3 points 1 hour ago

in that he laid down arms and made peace and eventually governed the whole country?

that madiba?

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago
[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world -2 points 1 hour ago

and to make progress they stopped being terrorists

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Nope, they were terrorists until they won

[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

"winning" was making peace with his oppressors

there must be some differences because the same approach doesn't seem to be working for hamas, or maybe it's not the same approach

would you like to compare them to the IRA too?

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Winning meant taking control of South Africa. I'm sure if Israel is willing to give Palestinians control of Israel, they'll happily make peace

[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

they can talk about that at the negotiations they'll have

again because the situation is very different i doubt that will happen, would have to agree that it's one country first eh? and the electorate is quite different too

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago

Lol, the South African resistance didn't just throw down their arms before they secured their goals. Do you think Mandela just went to Botha and said "pretty please give me the country uwu."

[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

you obviously see hamas and ANC to be in similar situations

so what's the next step for hamas using the ANC plan?

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 55 minutes ago

Indeed, because they are similar.

The same thing as ever; keep resisting until Israel implodes under the weight of its own fascist death drive domestically, and overwhelming disgust abroad.

[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world -1 points 41 minutes ago

the reason why there isn't overwhelming disgust abroad and israel is not imploding is because the indigenous jews survived another fascist death drive in the 30s/40s, and they are the majority now

that's the important difference

they did overreact to oct 7th but there are still hostages

it's not that similar to south africa

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 35 minutes ago

Well there is exponentially increasing disgust abroad, and Israel is firmly in the cycle of self destruction that eliminationist fascism inevitably experiences (ironically the same one Nazi Germany did), so your point is moot, though even if the facts are what you say, it would be odd to say that the Holocaust then at all effects the viability of Israel's project of colonial genocide.

[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world -1 points 30 minutes ago

exponential? hardly. most people are more worried about trump and putin

lol i meant the arab/jewish wars

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 28 minutes ago* (last edited 27 minutes ago)

Yes, exponentially.

Ok, that doesn't change my point. It's also not true, but it wouldn't change my point if it was.

[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world 0 points 22 minutes ago

which part isn't true?

so no peace plan eh? i think even hamas are vaguely attempting to negotiate something

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 minutes ago

Least incoherent zionist genocide supporter.

[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

that's better than zionazi although that did make me think of islamofascist which made me giggle

[-] alkbch@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 hours ago

They don't care about things that do not impact them, or people near them.

I'm kinda still salty about letting agent orange back in the wh but what would you like me to do? I'm not really that knowledgeable on the subject so it's kinda difficult for me to form an argument other than, "let's not kill people." If that's your advise I'll give it a try. Again.

[-] Bloomcole@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 hours ago

It affects them so you know what they will care and removed about.
They are even worse than maga bcs they're so disgustingly self absorbed and pretentious they think they are on the right side.
I really hope they get what they deserve.

[-] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago

Ukraine affects me as a fellow European.

I'm not on the right side, I just want my family to live in peace.

Tariffs don't matter. The energy crisis didn't matter. COVID restrictions didn't matter. Those are just economic struggles.

It's safety that matters most.

Israel has been expanding their territory over the past century, it has been well covered by the media every time there's stuff happening. I remember Israeli taking the home of a Palestine family and the Palestinians just had to leave. This was a few years prior to the Hamas shooting at a festival.

If governments weren't handling Ukraine situation, energy crisis, COVID, etc. Then nothing would be happening.

There's people on the street here in Belgium, mostly young people and people from middle Eastern descent.

[-] Bloomcole@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 hour ago

It’s safety that matters most.

There is nothing less safe than the US/NATO fueled paranoia and warmongering Russophobia.
And the spineless governments of EU aren't handling anything.
They do everything the US tells them to in the case of ex-ukraine or israel.
Nothing but vasals.
That they are sad now bcs their owner doesn't respect them while they've been such obedient little helpers will not change anything.
All it is is embarrassing.
People fail to see Europe's place in the food chain, our media certainly won't admit this.
And neither will they admit the consequences.
What they, and you as a result from their BS reporting, mislabel as 'energy crisis' is a direct result from sanctions and the pure US terrorist act of blowing up Nordstream.
You better believe that matters.
It means we can't compete economically, companies are relocating and we will be in massive trouble.
And to make it worse they double down and decide to spend even more money we haven't got on US weapons.
Who do you think will have to pay for that?
And all it does is get ups a step closer to war and put a large part of the population in poverty.
And I mean poverty like never seen before.
Well maybe not never since the situation is exactly like the 1930's.
And it will have the same result.
Angry population voting for extreme right.
The last step before we're ready to be sent to the Ostfront again.

There’s people on the street here in Belgium, mostly young people and people from middle Eastern descent.

Sure, about 50, the rest of the apathetic youth is gazing at their phone.

[-] Zzyzx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 19 hours ago

This is sadly how mainstream liberals have always behaved. I remember when all the anti-war folks seemed to disappear into thin air once Obama got elected. I guess extrajudicial drone strikes are cool when Democrats do it.

[-] thepresentpast@lemm.ee 1 points 7 hours ago

This is exactly the problem with lumping in everyone who is not a Trump supporter as "liberals". You end up with this completely misguided impression of who "liberals" are and what "liberals" do. It's become a meaningless term.

[-] bampop@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Seems to be a common feature of US politics that words lose their meanings and become distorted into vague aspersions about categories of people, which in practice take on the meaning of "the enemy" or at least "the other", words degraded so that their main purpose is to divide.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

Liberals as in a supporter of liberal or neoliberal economics, the Democratic Party is neoliberal. There were absolutely liberals who would justify the US striking Yemeni civilians and civilian infrastructure (like the commercial airport) as "FAFO, get rekt terrorists" because the Houthis had the morally correct position of imposing a blockade to apply pressure on the US and Israel to end the genocide. Which the Houthis followed through and stopped implementing the blockade during the ceasefire. All in the context of Yemen being under a US-Saudi-Israeli backed genocide that's been ongoing for years.

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