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[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

Is he saying the first point is wrong or just that it conflicts with the second?

[-] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

They conflict. The first one is a form of moral relativism (that how you should act morally depends on your culture/upbringing).

The second one is a form of moral absolutism (that there is a specific morality you should live by)

Basically someone saying there's no right answer while also saying they have the only right answer and everyone who disagrees with it is bad.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 27 points 14 hours ago

That it conflicts. He's saying that if you believe that morality is relative and every person/culture has the difficult task of defining their own, it's ironic to be so aghast when people have reached different conclusions than you.

[-] atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

It seems like that tension between those things (which I'd expect are natural intuitions that many people experience) would be a foundational principle in ethics. Is it? Is that the joke?

[-] C45513@lemm.ee 3 points 5 hours ago

as someone who never studied ethics academically, this was also my guess.

[-] III@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Setting aside the unshakeable part, morality should be somewhat rigid. While relative, that doesn't mean morality can or should change on a whim.

[-] Famko@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago

That it conflicts with the second viewpoint.

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