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this post was submitted on 18 Mar 2025
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[Dormant, please move to !television@lemm.ee] Movies and TV Shows
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Imagine you worked in a big company, and one day eight months ago the marketing team had a meeting where they were playing a new promotional video loud and you stuck your head round the door and watched to the end of the 1-minute ad, stuck your thumbs up, said "good ad" and left. Then this week, you get an email saying they'd gone through the CCTV footage and found that you'd been in a marketing meeting in the past, so because the marketing team had decided to change the branding, and that everyone who contributed in any way to marketing discussions should be on board, you personally should start attending marketing meetings every Thursday morning at 9:15 to help steer the new vision, and vote on new ads every week. You would be pissed off.
Please do not assume that everyone who ever made a drive-by comment on one of your posts that reached the front page is someone who wants to subscribe to your new community, and absolutely don't come in my inbox to instruct me to go to a community based on the authority of some vote I wasn't in. I wasn't the one making your community lively, it was the people creating engaging posts.
You complain that people wouldn't see your pinned post? Well, it doesn't matter to anyone except people who were going to post. You don't move a community by moving the commenters, you move a community by moving the new posts. Put it in the sidebar, put it in a pinned post, put it in the title of the community (like you have), just above the button you have to press to post. If your post creators move to your new community, great, and if they continue to post great stuff that gets random lemmings like me to comment on something interesting, even greater, but it's absolutely not OK to spam everyone to tell them to go subscribe.
You're not in charge of non-subscribers in any way, and the only authority you have to grab my attention is good content that people engage with.
If you build it, they will come. This is not building it, this is just spam.
It's really really hard to resist the urge to go to the new community and block it. In your understandable desire to build the new community, you have incomprehensibly tried to force people to do what you want. You're not my boss. I just commented a couple of times. Look up Aesop's fable about the wind and the sun.
If I were an admin, I would with no hesitation whatsoever be perma-banning the bot account and temp-banning the humans involved in the decision too.
Spam: don't do it. How on earth would you possibly not realise this was spam? What on earth made you think it was OK to spam everyone who ever interacted even slightly? Why do mods think they're in charge of users choices?
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Unfortunately, the bot or script can't ping by subscribers. So it did the next best thing: comments. It's not telling anyone to do anything.
It's only a one-off notification, dear me.
Ping by posters, maybe, but actually just don't ping. It's spam.
The net was WAY too wide.
And don't ever tell me what to subscribe to.
Some meeting I wasn't in deciding I had to do something and then sending me messages telling me to do it can absolutely go get lost.
It wasn't /telling/ you to do anything. It was just a "hey, if you're interested". That's it. Ideally Lemmy would have a function native for community migration but this is the next best thing.
The impoliteness of spamming thousands of users completely undoes any politeness that the single word "please" adds to this instruction based on someone else's vote.
Imagine this sent to everyone who ever made a political comment: "You once expressed a political opinion. America has voted, please now subscribe to Trump on Truth Social." It's not even OK if you restrict it to just US based commenters, but it's sure as shit not OK to send it globally.
That was the post on this thread, not the notification that was sent out. The notification just says "Automated migration notification" (and then a list of names). Are you of the opinion that the very announcement in this community is in fact trying to dictate to people that they must subscribe to the new community?
I'm of the opinion that pasting thousands and thousands of user's addresses into your message is spam and I find it incomprehensible that you think you and your community are so important that it excuses it.
I genuinely don't get why someone's notifications are so sacred to them to this extent. This was a one-off event that was done purely to get people migrating over to the new community. Which it seems to have done. Some people aren't bothered by it, presumably because they did subscribe here.
Then you don't understand why people don't like spam. You support spamming. You think your message is more important than my preferences, than THOUSANDS of users preferences, and the fact that you've pissed off a bunch of users hasn't even begun to convince you to even consider that you might be in the wrong here.
As I said, I'm not telling you to do anything. You don't want to subscribe, don't subscribe. You just got caught up on the mail-list because you at some point posted here (in the last X months). It's done now. It won't happen again.
You're defending spamming up and down this thread and arguing with anyone you pissed off. Have a little think about whether that makes the world a better place. And try reading what people say and be less broken record.
Then stop defending it ffs and try apologising instead.
that was scraped, the way spammers do it. "We thought you'd be interested in... " is at the start of an awful lot of marketing crap.
It's just a community notification, not some seedy product or some con or scam. It was always meant as a one-off thing (that's apparently been done before anyway by the same guy to zero issues for another community migration).
Still justifying your actions, still excusing your spam, still being defensive, still absolutely believing you did the right thing despite pissing a bunch of people off, still not apologising.
Skavau is completely unaffiliated with this action (I don't even know him), please don't accuse him of being a part of this. He is just trying to help you understand how you can see this from a different perspective.
Skavau is up and down the thread arguing with people who didn't like the spam and is the mod of the new community. "Trying to help you understand" simply isn't how they're behaving.
I'm not inclined to be told what to do, as you so object to yourself when you believed you were being ordered about.
It pissed me off as it was a notification I didn't ask for and was an abuse of the Lemmy notification system. Many apps divert the notification to the actual phone OS which is a "sacred space" for me personally. I absolutely do not like being disturbed for such a shit notification for a community I give zero fucks about.
Don't send a notification I didn't ask for or expect. Period.
Being that you cannot change the past or change any of the above conditions, your attempted justification is moot.
As a result, I am blocking you, Blaze, the old community and the new community. While that has almost zero impact to Lemmy as a whole, it does give me a clear picture of all the fuckers that likely participate in these communities.