What's an Executive Order? Where is it spelled out what the do and how they're regulated? Can they be vetoed by another arm of government? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

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Sounds like some made-up bullshit to me. Let's throw a flag on this motherfucker and stop the game for a review.

EDIT: Even if it's a thing, how can it have the superpower of closing entire government agencies, opening new ones that supersede national security laws, and nationalizing a voting system that resides in the states?

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[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago

...deciding how and to what degree legislation will be enforced, dealing with emergencies, waging wars, and in general fine-tuning policy choices in the implementation of broad statutes.

Yeah, that's not what we're seeing here.

Attempts to block such orders have been successful at times, when such orders either exceeded the authority of the president or could be better handled through legislation.

Sure as shootin', this is what's happening. Let's get blocking. Of course, there's the problem of a rogue presidency that doesn't obey court orders.

[-] CapriciousDay@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 days ago

I think there's another issue in that the agencies who receive the executive order are essentially obliged to act as if they are legally binding until they're shot down in court. This means there's a sort of time gap where an executive order can enact an essentially permanent change (e.g. delete a bunch of info, bomb something, etc.) and the court has no way to get it reversed by the time they rule on it.

[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Surely couldn't they do the opposite, ie. refuse to act and wait to be taken to court (if they think they'd win)? Obviously futile if the court has been captured though

[-] CapriciousDay@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

Potentially with experienced staff members they might try to call its bluff but then it seems like they've also been uprooting experienced personnel, making everyone unstable, replacing them with Trumper patsies etc. which probably minimises this kind of pushback.

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