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[-] jaschen@lemm.ee -1 points 3 months ago

I'm obviously going to be downvoted for this, but the second you ask me to use the terminal is the second the OS is not ready.

Last week I reinstalled Windows after trying MintOS. I have a 54" Ultrawide screen monitor and I wanted the windows to snap in 3 sections.

I spent a few hours in terminal trying to install something after trying everything in flatpak. Windows 11 split screens out of the box. It can even tile. You can even use hotkeys to snap left and right.

In order for normies like me to switch, you have to make the OS at as easy to use as Windows. Don't make us use terminal like I'm on DOS.

[-] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

I think you want KDE. I'm using KDE on vanilla EndeavourOS and it snaps windows just fine. Hotkeys work too, just slightly different (super + page up instead of up arrow to maximize).

[-] jaschen@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

I will admit In have not tried KDE. I have tried popOS and Ubuntu outside of MintOS. Does it snap into 3 or 4 sections? I'll give it a try if it does.

[-] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago

It is the most 'Windows-like' of the mainstream desktop environments. I don't usually snap into quadrants but you can, here's an example of how that would look in KDE.

[-] jaschen@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

This is exactly what I am looking for. Thank you .

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Have you ever had to edit the registry?

[-] jaschen@lemm.ee -1 points 3 months ago

I can't find a single reason why I would need to. What am I missing?

[-] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

A very solvable problem with window tiling managers. There's unironically thousands of them.

Linux just honestly might not be for you if a terminal is an insurmountable obstacle 🤷‍♀️ it's how you interact with the basics of your computer. It's worth ripping that bandaid off and getting over your fear of term imo. I honestly prefer software I can just run from the terminal.

[-] jaschen@lemm.ee -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don't want thousands of solutions. I need 1 that works out of the box for the OS I just installed. Also, why are there thousands of tiling solutions? How do I parse through all of them to know which one to install? Out of the thousand of solutions, which one will become abandonware or already abandoned?

I don't disagree with you. I'm 100% onboard with your assessment on someone like me. A normie.

The argument here is that this meme suggests that Linux wasn't ready for normies 15 years ago and is ready now(2025). My argument is it is not. Normies do not use terminal. We want intuitive UX. We want a smart decision tree of options we can take. What we don't want is entering a script in terminal that could fail because we forgot a dash or transcribe a forward slash to a backslash.

Also, what you consider "basic" is relative. Your knowledge of computers is vastly different across the world.

I had a forum member on Reddit call me an idiot because I didn't know what sudo was. Does that make me "basic"?

[-] phar@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Try a different desktop environment instead of blaming all of Linux, my dude

[-] jaschen@lemm.ee -1 points 3 months ago

My dude. What is a desktop environment? Do you automatically assume normies understand what that means?

This is further proof that this meme assumes that Linux wasn't ready for normies 15 years ago but is ready now.

[-] phar@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

What are models of vehicles? What are different types of skiis? Shouldn't just one book have all of human knowledge? I'm not assuming anything about Normie's or anything, just telling you to try a different DE. Linux comes with options. You might want a sports car or you might want a truck. Before you buy a vehicle you look at what you want to do and then buy the right vehicle.

[-] jaschen@lemm.ee -1 points 3 months ago

I guess when I'm expecting to have at least air conditioning instead of having my pick from thousands of different air conditioning systems from GitHub hoping it hasn't been abandonware.

If I'm picking a specific system, I expect the engine to start when I turn the key, instead of a secret jiggle for it to work correctly.

[-] __dev@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Every time I install windows I needed to use the terminal to bypass microsoft's online login requirement. Clearly Windows is not ready.

[-] pogmommy@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

And don't get me started on the registry editor

[-] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Terminal is easier than Windows, if you don't want to use it, fine, but saying it's harder is a lie.

[-] jaschen@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

If you hand someone a computer and powered up terminal and ask them to install an app like Tailscale. Watch them struggle without searching a forum on how to do it.

A normie will have zero clue what is a app get. A normie won't know you have to use a dash for app-get on some operating systems vs another one.

[-] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Watch them struggle without searching a forum on how to do it.

Wow, you mean someone wont know how to do something if they've never done it before and are forbidden from looking for help? Astounding, get a research team on this.

A normie won’t know you have to use a dash for app-get on some operating systems vs another one.

But a single search will return dozens of results of the correct answer and then they'll know, because it isn't actually difficult and your argument is based in "I don't want to learn" dressed up as "it's too hard"

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