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[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 3 weeks ago

If you have any wisdom, you will support them. Full left or nothing else will work.

[-] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Lol they aren't even full left, at all. We've deluded ourselves into thinking common sense and not being bought by the billionaires and corporate lobbies is "full left"

[-] oce@jlai.lu 0 points 3 weeks ago

As far as I know, they are social-democrats, full-left would be anti-capitalist or anarchist, which they are not.

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I thought Bernie was at least an actual socialist. That's the impression I got.

[-] botterotter@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

He claims democratic socialist, but his stated policies are social democrat.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 1 points 3 weeks ago

Isn't it compatible with the democrat socialist philosophy of progressive change as opposed to a revolution?

[-] botterotter@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah I was just clarifying that Bernie is not a democratic socialist himself, he just misuses the label (although that misuse is more common than not nowadays)

[-] oce@jlai.lu 1 points 3 weeks ago

What I am saying is that he may actually be one, but he pushes social democrat politics as progressive steps towards democratic socialism. Also probably by electoralism, to avoid scaring some voters.

[-] botterotter@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

Looking into it further, you may be right. It looks like in his younger days he was more vocally socialist and pushed harder for more immediately and obviously socialist ideas but tempered that at some point, likely to make himself more appealing to win elections. Some people claim he is not a real socialist regardless because he is reformist.

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