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Then why anytime we try to do it here in America, we are called progressives, socialists, or communists?
Because hyperbole sells.
I consider myself a Centrist simply because both sides can fuck right off. The Left can't barely manage to do 3 things right before fumbling everything. The Right traded the former guise of fiscal responsibility for LARPing as Nazis. "Sides" are a false choice forced on voters to give two brands of dickbag a duopoly to their benefit.
It sure is progressive though. That's such a weird word to use as a pejorative. I mean I can get the theory behind being against a big nanny state, but why call it an unambigously positive term then?