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Antony Starr is glad ‘The Boys’ is ending: “I don’t like seeing things outstay their welcome” (www.nme.com)

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[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Honestly, it outstayed it's welcome in the final episode of the first season for me.

I don't know sense the fuck the producers have against the story, but fucking or off that far was a waste. They could have just made up their own show and not wasted the money getting the title from Ennis, if they were going to fuck with the core motivation of a central character like that.

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I have no fucking clue why everyone is all het up and nasty about this I'm not saying people can't enjoy the show, I'm just expressing my opinion, and for some reason people are acting very unpleasant for lemmy.

It's disappointing considering I was very recently arguing that lemmy is unusually respectful of differing opinions. I'm not sure if it's this community that's being hit with unusual incivility, if it's the influx of reddit users not getting that we can be decent to each other while disagreeing, or what.

But, people, remember the human.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 5 points 4 days ago

The comics sucked, the show is a big improvement

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago

Eh, I'm not talking about the quality of the show or comics.

Ennis is pretty well known for having neat ideas and then pissing all over them with hack dialogue and over doing shock scenes. So it wouldn't be hard at all to improve that kind of stuff. And the show had incredible production value, with vastly improved dialogue overall.

But one of the things that way too many adaptations get wrong is fucking with the characters. Butcher, his whole story is his drive to fuck every super in the ass (metaphorically) because of what happened to his wife.

Then, they undid that entire idea at the end of the first season, but kept trying to make Butcher the same guy, with the same behaviors. That's a complete failure to make use of the best parts of what Ennis wrote. The characters, and the core ideas, that's what Ennis is good at.

They had already kinda shifted Huey a good bit via making him american, but they kept his motivation, the core of him. Then they just said "fuck it" and basically mangled Butcher's entire arc.

Like, why bother paying for the rights if you're not going to use the good parts of it?

Same thing happened with Preacher. They dumped a ton of money and time into making a slick, well crafted show, but completely undid the characters motivations and personalities in a single scene.

Ennis may be a hack, but fuck, just do something original if you aren't going to really adapt what matters most.

[-] Klear@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago

Devil's advocate: it's a good thing to change things up a bit in an adaptation, both to keep old fans on their toes and maybe come up with new ideas and interpretations.

I had a similar reaction to the s1 ending but I was going to give them the benefit of the doubt that they have some idea of how to work with this.

My big issue came a bit later, when they had Homelander kill Stillwell. To me the main point of the comics was that all the capes were ultimately a non-issue, a theatre. Stilwell was THE most dangerous, evil and scary character, personifying Vogue.

And they replaced him (her, I guess) basically with some comic relief idiots afterwards.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

I'm actually okay with changes, when they don't mess up the "spirit" of the characters, and don't totally blow apart a plot

But, yeah, Stillwell, that's such a horrible choice to kill him off at all, much less that way. I had quit watching, but you pick up bits and pieces anyway, and hearing that had made me glad I had already stopped