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U.S. national-security leaders included me in a group chat about upcoming military strikes in Yemen. I didn’t think it could be real. Then the bombs started falling.

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[-] TingoTenga@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I find the "accidental" chat with a journalist too strange to take it at face value.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I know others (including myself, a little) are being dismissive of your position, but the reason I think it is reasonable to be skeptical is because of past examples like this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents_controversy

The Killian documents controversy (also referred to as Memogate or Rathergate) involved six documents containing false allegations about President George W. Bush's service in the Texas Air National Guard in 1972–73, allegedly typed in 1973. Dan Rather presented four of these documents as authentic in a 60 Minutes II broadcast aired by CBS on September 8, 2004, less than two months before the 2004 presidential election, but it was later found that CBS had failed to authenticate them. Several typewriter and typography experts soon concluded that they were forgeries. Lieutenant Colonel Bill Burkett provided the documents to CBS, but he claims to have burned the originals after faxing them copies.

This lead to massive shakeup of top personnel at CBS and 60 Minutes and ended up either coinciding with or becoming the reason for Dan Rather leaving the network.

[-] TingoTenga@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Thanks for the response and interesting link. I should have worded my initial comment better, I suppose.

What I am saying it that it may be worth considering that the extraordinary nature of the leak warrants a critical analysis of a possible ulterior motive or furtherance of some other agenda.

What I may be, I don't know.

However, for instance, even more than the leak itself, I find it ultimately more relevant that a very anti-European stance was expressed in the coziness of a "private" chat by the senior most national-security officials of the US.

[-] CarnivorousCouch@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

You're getting down voted on your top level comment, but I wanted to take a second to say I appreciate your back and forth here. I'm more inclined to call this incompetence, but your point that other motives and agendas could be at play is well taken.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

However, for instance, even more than the leak itself, I find it ultimately more relevant that a very anti-European stance was expressed in the coziness of a “private” chat by the senior most national-security officials of the US.

True, but it also seems totally plausible that it could be real conversation from a private chat. Seems like a terrible way to leak a message.

[-] TingoTenga@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago
[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

Of course they didn't accidentally add a reporter to their private group chat - that's ridiculous! Obviously it was aliens who added him without them noticing. They have advanced technology to add group members in signal without anyone noticing.

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