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WHO’s first traditional medicine summit splits opinions
(www.nature.com)
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look I'm fine with people researching whatever the hell they want. That's how we learn new unexpected things. Just so long as it doesn't come at the expense of further research on stuff fields proven to be effective
You know what we call "traditional" or "homeopathic" treatments that actually work?
Medicine.
Making a platform for con artists to grift on isn't gonna help things
If the research standards are the same for everyone how is it a grift?
That is sort of the aim with this initiative, isn't it? Right now the standards are not the same, so some alternative treatments are absolut bullcrap while others actually seem to help.
Now once you find out which ones are a grift, as you say, would you really want all of these call with the same term, alternative medicine? Thats what the previous poster means, it would be much easier to lump those in with what we call now medicines and keep all the bullshit treatments on their own, a.k.a. alternative medicine.
People act like scientists have never even looked at traditional treatments and just ignore them because they are "traditional." Like we haven't had decades upon decades of progress in medicine, exploring every accessible avenue, and only a few of those avenues actually lead anywhere real. Herbs do not "cool down" or "speed up" your blood. Water does not have "memory." There are no such things as "meridians" in your body. We don't need to spend more time researching these things until you can prove that they exist.
People arguing that we need to spend more time researching traditional medicine ignore the fact that we have, and we found it to be bullshit. It's an intellectually dishonest argument, because it just moves the goalposts every time. Traditional medicine supporters will never admit that their medicine is bullshit, because they view it as foundational, so the most they can do is say "we need to examine it more!" Even though the fundamental, most basic claims that these systems are based on are pseudoscientific fairy tales.
Yeah, as for the first bit, for sure; exploration and discoveries mostly lead to advancements in the field.
The second sentence is a bit harder to grasp, because stuff that already works usually doesn't need much further research. Unless you have something specific in mind or it's a new field like mrna vaccinations against cancer, for example.
Getting back to the article, I like this quote: " It does not at all mean being soft on science," says Kuruvilla. “It actually means being hard on traditional medicine and hard on science, to say, do we have the right methods to understand more complex phenomena in the right way?”
Ya that second bit there is mostly why I'm fine with it. I think people get triggered a bit when they hear terms like "tranditional" medicine