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/News mods define anti-Zionism as racism
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It was clear for me, too. However, a lot of people struggle to tell apart two things when you use the same word to refer to them, and that's one of those cases.
My suggestion in this regard is to always use "state of Israel" instead. You'll still get some bans, but it becomes harder for supporters of the genocidal state to claim "no, ur teh 1 defending genoside".
This would require acknowledging Israel as a state, which it is not.
Nobody uses the term "state of Israel to refer to it. Demonstrated by the title of the posted article "Israel announces expansion...". Not a single person raises the question if this means a person called "Israel" is planning to become so obese that they occlude the Gaza strip.
The word "Israel" suffices and the .World moderators know perfectly well what is means. There is no ambiguity to hide behind.
Israel is a government controlling a population and a territory. It is a state by definition. To claim otherwise is fucking stupid.
And that's central here. A state is an "it"; unlike human beings, it has no right to defend itself. And it should be dismantled once it harms actual people, just like Nazi Germany was.
Yeah, just like article titles demonstrate English has no articles. Pfffft.
That's why you totally weren't banned for "racism", as if you were targetting actual people instead of a genocidal power structure, right? Right??? Oh wait.
This sounds exactly the same as
"Since I'm too stubborn to avoid falling into the sort of trap nationalists love to set up, I'll keep helping the Zionists and clueless muppets to equate «attacks against Israel» = «racism»."
You might not be a Zionist but you're certainly eager to contribute with them.
An occupation is not a state. If controlling an area and population with government would make something a state, the RSF in Sudan would be a state and Crimea would be transferred into Russia the moment it got occupied.
Your comment is the definition of
"This is hurting your cause - person against cause"
"But what about the RSF?"
That said, yes, the RSF is either a state already or really close to one.
Crimea is disputed by two states and under effective control of one (Russia). "Congrats" for proving Russia is a state.
Emphasis mine. I outright compared that crap with Nazi Germany, so stop lying / assuming / bullshitting that I would be against the cause of getting rid of it.
That said if the expression "state of Israel" makes you so uncomfortable, you could use any other expression of your choice, as long as it leaves clear that you're referring solely to the power structure and not the population.
Unless you'd rather keep being the zionists' little plaything in their language game, and actually help them to spread their idiotic and immoral "noooooo, people defending the Palestinians are Nazi" babble. Because that's what you're doing here.
You are out here recognizing the RSF and ISIS as states to defend Israel and think anyone will take you seriously?
I am not defending Israel. Please stop being a liar.
You recognize Israel thus you defend Israel.
Ask the Palestinians what they call their occupier.
A state is an instrument of oppression dammit. To recognise "X is a state" is NOT the same as defending X.
So, again, stop being a liar. (Actually it's worse, you're being a dumb fuck.)
Saying people need to recognize Israel to advance the Palestinia cause is defending Israel. Palestinians do not recognize Israel for a reason.
To pretend that the state is not there is simply not feasible. It's wishful belief - this shit harms more than it helps.
And, again: if you really want to die in this weird hill there are other ways to refer to that power structure, as long as you make sure the zionists can't distort your discourse from "it should be gone" into "they should be gone".
If this anyhow helped, we wouldn't be discussing this. Nor there would be piles of civilian bodies in Gaza, murdered by the state of Israel.
You would love the Abraham Accords.