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[-] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 7 points 2 days ago

And I bet all of them are loaded with methylcellulose (a.k.a. nature's laxative) just like every other bullshit fake meat product.

I follow a vegan diet now, but grew up in the southern US around legit BBQ. There is no point trying to replicate that, never going to come close and it's just going to use shitty processed food techniques to accomplish it. If you're going to go vegan, how about actually be vegan instead of chasing a life you decided to leave behind.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

These are not for vegans. Vegans alone couldn't remotely pay back what has been invested in these products. These are for carnists looking for the moral license to continue eating shitty food. Like how when people order a diet pop, they allow themselves any amount of high-calorie food to go along with it. It's a marketing gimmick for carnists, not a solution to any problem vegans have.

[-] HiroProtagonist@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

"Carnists" is an inappropriate slur. It's the first time I have heard it but I just know I should probably be offended. I reserve the right to use it on other people.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I can tell you're being funny but I'm not exactly sure what you're saying. Taking your comment at face value (sorry about that), "carnist" was not intended as a slur, and certainly is not defined as one. Carnists are people with the (typically unconscious, unexamined) belief that sometimes it is acceptable or even good to be needlessly cruel and violent to animals. The word contrasts with vegans, who believe needless cruelty and violence are never acceptable or good. It was coined by Melanie Joy in their 2009 book, Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows: An Introduction to Carnism.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

The person you’re replying to is the kind of person that makes rednecks proud to eat meat. Personally, I don’t care if someone thinks I’m doing it to virtue signal; I’m going to eat meat alternatives when they taste as good as meat, and Impossible meat does taste as good as meat. Reducing our overall meat consumption as a society is a good thing.

[-] HiroProtagonist@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

I completely agree with you. OP and people like them are actually slowing down the transition away from meat

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I tend to think things like toxic masculinity and fear of empathy do far more to make rednecks proud of eating meat. Though, the mere presence of someone who does not eat meat for moral reasons is unbearably aggravating for many people.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah, true. You shouldn’t let that make you feel jaded though. If someone is dipping their toes into meat alternatives, encouragement can really help them. :)

(Please don’t visualize that metaphor. I just did. 0/10, do not recommend.)

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