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[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

These are not for vegans. Vegans alone couldn't remotely pay back what has been invested in these products. These are for carnists looking for the moral license to continue eating shitty food. Like how when people order a diet pop, they allow themselves any amount of high-calorie food to go along with it. It's a marketing gimmick for carnists, not a solution to any problem vegans have.

[-] HiroProtagonist@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

"Carnists" is an inappropriate slur. It's the first time I have heard it but I just know I should probably be offended. I reserve the right to use it on other people.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I can tell you're being funny but I'm not exactly sure what you're saying. Taking your comment at face value (sorry about that), "carnist" was not intended as a slur, and certainly is not defined as one. Carnists are people with the (typically unconscious, unexamined) belief that sometimes it is acceptable or even good to be needlessly cruel and violent to animals. The word contrasts with vegans, who believe needless cruelty and violence are never acceptable or good. It was coined by Melanie Joy in their 2009 book, Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows: An Introduction to Carnism.

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