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One acts like a 'Know it all' and the other 'wants to learn it all' (lemmy.world)

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[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

That’s where atheists overstep. Why does it matter what someone believes if it has no effect on you? Isn’t that exactly what you criticize the religious of doing?

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

Other people's beliefs directly impact me constantly through laws justified by religious doctrine, social pressures, imposing themselves into government offices, and being used to promote lying politicians who claim to be members but never following the teachings while gaining votes for being on the same team.

It has negatively affected me my entire life, even if it isn't a obvious as racism and misogyny.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world -1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

So you’re saying that you want separation from religion. Why can’t they have that from you? I agree that religion doesn’t belong in government. What about that justifies extermination of religion?

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I didn't say anything about extrrninating religion, I responded to your comment saying people's beliefs have no affect on an atheist.

Atheists being against religion is a reaction to the default assumption that everyone is part of a religion. The label atheist only exists as a response to beliefs.

[-] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

Right, until they harm someone or themselves by thinking they can fly if they believe hard enough or that they can get into a magical afterlife if they kill enough people. If you are open to that magic thinking then you are open to be manipulated and used.

Or their beliefs turn extremists because religion like cancer or capitalism needs unending growth to fuel its existence. People need to be kept uneducated and gullible enough to buy into the fantasy and to donate more money to make the clergy that will inevitably rape some kids.

These same people are bringing their fantasy into politics and look where that brought America and or the religious war going on.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Way to project. Find me articles on Buddhists harming people because they think they can fly. While I’m waiting, would you like me to provide scientific research that resulted in harm?

You can’t have it both ways. If you want boundaries that protect you from the religious, then you yourself must respect the same boundary.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Like every large religion, a significant portion of the followers will ignore any teaching in the right contexts. Christians are about turning the other cheek and loving thy neighbor except for the crusades and witch trials, Islam is the religion of peace except for when it isn't, and Buddhism has its own exceptions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence

As found in other religious traditions, Buddhism has an extensive history of violence dating back to its inception.

These remarks followed the 1973 student-led uprising, as well as the creation of a Thai parliament and the spread of communism in neighboring East Asian countries. The fear of communism shaking the social forms of Thailand felt a very real threat to Kittivuddho, who expressed his nationalist tendencies in his defense of militant actions. He justified his argument by dehumanizing the Communists and leftists that he opposed. In the interview with Caturat he affirmed that this would not be the killing of people, but rather the killing of monsters/devils. He similarly asserted that while killing of people is prohibited and thus de-meritorious in Buddhist teachings, doing so for the "greater good" will garner greater merit than the act of killing will cost.