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[-] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 70 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The problem is that something is missing and it's being filled by angry reactionaries and right wing grifters who prey on the particular insecurities of young men, specifically insecurities around masculine values.

What's missing is a foundational framework for understanding the male experience as distinct yet coequal to feminist theory. A framework that seeks to promote a balanced, respectful dialogue by articulating unique structures, values, and challenges faced by men, in order to offer a lens through which male identity, struggle, and transformation can be understood on their own terms, while upholding - acknowledging - the progress and insights of feminism.

These men feel like they don't have purpose or identity. They need a framework, but unfortunately efforts to define and build such a framework are often hijacked by extremists that just hate women and minorities. Like we see now.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 19 points 1 week ago

Do we really need to make the framework different for male and female humans? Why not use one for humans and teach tolerance to difference in general? I don't think many of the issues we face will be solved if we keep two different frameworks.

[-] GrackleBirb@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

AFAB here and I agree 100% - the issue is that by elevating that which used to acceptably be oppressed, the primary oppressor feels that they have lost station and position as they see society as a ladder - if you aren't at the top someone else is above you. That kind of thinking makes this even more difficult to solve.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 1 week ago

Agreed, masculists, especially the young ones, are mostly socially anxious and socially scared people who find shelter from their anxiety by oppressing another group. The solution is probably to work on this social anxiety from childhood.

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