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In my experience the only nastiness I face are from people who attack me for being a """tankie"""
Lemmygrad's moderation if quite strict so I can understand why liberals wouldn't be interested, and hexbear doesn't shy away from personal attacks on liberals, but lemmy.ml seems very reasonable to me.
Unreasonable moderation (e.g. bans for warning against romanticising the Soviet Union and Stalin) happens on lemmy.ml too. Please have a look at the link I posted in my previous comment.
Please link to a specific example and don't dump a gish gallop of stuff on me that I have to sift through myself. What I see is a lot of complaining about Rule #1 which specifically says to be civil and nice, and people being banned for not being civil or nice. Nothing unreasonable about it.
The example I referenced is https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&modId=26&userId=9458793
But the problem is that it's not an isolated case. You do need to take into account that this is regular practice, as shown in the multitude of cases.
Anyway, either you look into it, and find, like I did, that they are unreasonable and toxic, or you don't.
Doesn't really come across as "civil and nice" to me, but okay.
So I have had similar experiences with liberal instances. Why is it okay for my comments to be removed and for me to get banned for acknowledging that NATO encirclement of Russia exists or that the Euromaidan was a coup or that the US/NATO sabotaged ceasefire negotiations early in the conflict or that the goal of the war is to kill as many Russians as possible?
I accept being treated like this, because I understand that when I'm in lemmy.world or other liberal instances I am going to be speaking out against the liberal consensus. It's their instance, they can moderate how they like and I accept that.
So when I see lemmy.ml doing the same thing to liberals it's hard for me to see the problem.
Oh, the Tankie Triad is free to moderate as they wish too. And other instances are free to block them. And I am free to warn unsuspecting newcomers.
There's a difference, I think, between instances moderating as they wish and blocking entire instances. That should really be the last resort.
Just let mods be mods, there's no need to turn this into some kind of Lemmy civil war and start unpersoning your enemies.
This sectarian shit really sucks.
When instances become instruments of propaganda for Putin/Xi/Kim and ban people who expose such propaganda, they fully deserve to be blocked. They've become instruments of the enemies of civil society.
It's the moderation practices of those instances that put them in the corner of "sectarian shit". The rest of us don't need to tolerate such toxicity.
But when instances become instruments of propaganda for NATO/US/EU and ban people who expose such propaganda, that's fine.
I tolerate the toxicity of .world and other liberal instances, but maybe I shouldn't. Maybe I should just join lemmygrad so I never have to get attacked again for disagreeing with the liberal consensus and be treated like an enemy. I'd probably hit myself less.
But I don't think we are enemies. I think that, too, is propaganda.
I'd like to know what you're saying is eu/usa propaganda on lemmy. As far as I've seen, people here are extremely anti usa at a minimum.