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I don't want Americans in Canada and I won't be 'polite' to the ones that are. They are the enemy now. Fuck em.
I think it's worth keeping the doors open for tourists. Americans who have a good experience of visiting Canada, and who have met Canadians, may be less inclined to support invading. And it will be counterproductive to alienate the entire US population by turning hostile - this will only help Trump. Sure, a good number of Americans support Trump's fascism, but just as many do not. It will be helpful to maintain decent relations with those ones, and to have them on Canada's side if Trump escalates hostilities.
The people trying to escape right now are also the vulnerable who voted against this shit. Many of us also have friends and/or family across the border. It's the people who want to stay behind that you should fear.
Yes, about 100M people right next door are probably risky to Canada, because they are drinking the fox poison or allow evil through indifference. Maybe 150M?
About 5 million potential refugees. Difficult for us to manage but we'll try. The other 200M are (I'm guessing at the local mood here) welcome to visit and maybe immigrate.
The blame USA'ians feel coming from the north, even to allies, is about voting not being enough, it's not a way to wash away culpability.
what would you do in our situation?
it's not like I can go freely kill all my maga neighbors, or go protest every single day.
so what would you have us do differently that would absolve Americans enough to be accepted?
Don’t go full serial killer please. And while protesting can be helpful and at times necessary, it is only a small fraction of what is required for political and cultural change.
What would I do in your shoes, even though I don’t know their size or colour or condition or style? It seems obvious to me, but I am old and have spent time in places where Canadians have more global power than the locals.
Let’s say I move to Canada as a non-refugee, but maybe a political migrant moving out of concern. Some people are very welcoming and many seem cold or outright distrustful. Some of that seems directed not so much at me, since I check whether I am a mealy whinger or arrogant main character, and I’m not. It’s mainly about my origin and identity.
So I am going to earn trust where it counts. Not for the globally consistent 20% or so of boneheads who are always going to be authoritarian and xenophobic or supremacist in some way, fuck ‘em. Earn trust by building community in meaningful ways.
Work on making friends, while working on making up for the bullshit everyone here is now burdened with because American culture is so individualistic and religious and authoritarian and parochial and violent. Mitigate that shit for my new neighbours, in my own behaviour and by joining local initiatives that are pro-social, like volunteering at shelters or for a refugee organization.
Educate myself on history and local customs and geography. Don’t be the parochial dimwit of stereotypes. These are standard practice for any mildly courteous traveller, mind you.
Canada, however, has a special colonial relationship with the USA that affects everyone. So I pay attention, and remember that the citizens of the USA have long been friendly to, but have also long ignored and belittled and coveted and threatened and financially controlled and culturally dominated my new home… and people are going to remind me of that when I inevitably channel some of the american exceptionalism that galls most Canadians into passive aggressive mockery.
Eloquent. Probably the most well thought out comment I'll read today.
Rebel.
I would.
Why aren't you?
you speak as if you have nothing to lose. if true then you have nothing to gain.
I don't expect you to understand how Americans feel right now, but you're clearly terrified of Americans when you should instead direct that towards something far more constructive.
Should the roles be reversed, a majority of Americans would be openly accepting Canadians. not out of pity nor a sense of superiority, but out of mutual respect for a human being. sure, there's going to be some fascist assholes acting like you are now, but do you really want to be grouped in with the likes of them? I would hope you're not that blinded by fear and hate that you're willing to become a pawn of Trumps influence.
Nawa, we just fear all of you. As a collective you allowed this to happen.
I get where you are coming from. I don't feel that way. If they want the privilege of visiting Canada and not experience prejudice, then they need to take care of affairs at home first.
Until such a time, how can I trust anyone from America? I can't, I won't and I want them to know how much good Canadians humans are filled with disdain for anyone from the Kingdom of Trump.
I get where you're coming from too, and I don't think it's unreasonable to have that bit of mistrust going on. I feel a similar mistrust towards quite a few Canadians too though, with all the antivax stuff we've seen, the trucker convoy, Poilievre being the most popular Conservative leader in a while, and so on.
care to explain or are you just filled with so much hate there's no room for thought?
I know a few people who feel that we are under imminent threat of unimaginable violence. It does things to you.
Most of them see certain usa cultural behaviours and feel that's where the risk comes from. It’s too hard for them to articulate or figure out how to filter through it, so it comes out as blanket rejection and distrust. Not sure I have seen any outright hate yet, it's mostly defensive.
Also I have seen a lot of USA people online confuse that distrust with hate, obviously feeling touchy.
Bingo.
Oh yeah this is easy, thanks for asking.
If you want to visit Canada, take care of the shit happening at home first. Rebel, revolt, overthrow your government, whatever you have to do to get your affairs on order.
Until you have control of your country again, keep your fucking American taint as far away from Canada as possible. I dont want the American disease to spread up here.
You are the enemy right now. Literally the enemy, none of you get a free pass.
GET YOUR SHIT IN ORDER. until then, you are not welcomed. No enemy is.
And for the record, I don't hate Americans. I simply dont no trust in Americans anymore. You ignorant cunts.
"We want Canada." Is a fucking chant I have heard at hockey games. Fuuuuuuck thaaat. Fuck you. Stay away.
so fear and hate, got it.
so you'd be willing to accept Americans that went on killing sprees over Americans that are fleeing persecution?
just trying to understand why you would rather have your country flooded with murderers instead of law abiding citizens.
I’m with the OP and don’t think it needs or deserves explanation.
Fix your county before we all die. Nobody outside can do it for you.
He’s going to fucking invade counties soon. Oops, sorry, America is going to invade countries soon, including Canada.
so the latter it is!
remember, after WW2 victims of the Nazi régime were still victimized for being German for decades even though many were children or had zero control over their nation at the time.
the path to fascist control is paved with prejudiced stones.
by the way, have you stopped to think that you might be doing exactly what Trump wants you to do by spreading fear and hate against all Americans indiscriminately?
My German grandma's family immigrated to Canada right after WW1 and that's what they faced. She lost her language, and even if I asked her questions about Germany she would just turn away from me and not answer.
She never cooked German food either ... it was all Swedish for my grandpa.
Trump is still in power, right now, at this very moment. If you feel helpless in the face of what's going on, that's one thing, but what is being talked about isn't some bygone era of days past. It's the literal present.
what would you have us do? what would you do right now?
My point wasn't that I had a step-by-step comprehensive guide to solve everything from the moment that you read these words, my point was that the analogy of "sins of the father" doesn't work because 70 percent of the current living electorate looked at fascism and either were completely apathetic to it or actively sought it out. There are very legitimate reasons why Canadians are not going to be fond of Americans now and for some time to come. The threat of annexation is both real and current.
70% of the 100% who voted, yes. Only 70% of Americans voted. I can't excuse the 30% though, I even publicly called out those who refused to or just didn't vote.
my point being, treating every American like an enemy will only foster more hate and animosity.
yes it's real, always has been though. the truth is, your actions and emotions have been compromised by a megalomaniac in another country. one madman, I might add, that can't seem to make a choice on to tariff or not. the orange shitstain can't even decide on which countries will get the highest tariffs.
so yes, the threat is real that Canada can be invaded. I wouldn't put much stock in it until he makes a choice to shit or get off the pot though. let your government worry about it, it seems they still have their shit together.
personally, I'm staying in the US until my wife or kids are targeted. I'd like to bring them to Canada and come back to fight for my family that remains and for the hope that we can restore the order.
I cannot fight though, if I'm worried about my wife and kids and that's if they're here or there. so please, when the time comes, please be a good neighbor and return the same kindness my family shares with you.
Rebel, revolt and kill those in power is a good starting point.
I think we are clear on this.
We can't invade you, so take care of your own shit.
Then get rid of him, so we can begin the looooooooooooooooong road towards healing this completely fractured relationship.
We only deal with what is, which is all of America is our enemy now. You know we are preparing for an invasion right?