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Problem is people are fucking lazy and will not move to another platform. I want teamspeak and vent back but people nowadays won't even try. So we are forced to keep using it. People have no balls to stand up to corpos just to learn something new. It's infuriating.
Uh... You stand up to corpos. Just leave. Nobody is forcing you to use it.
That's well and good for us, but then we are just the isolated few who do it compared to all our friends that stay with discord because they're comfortable on it.
Gotta take a stand. There have been a few things where I gotta tell friends that I can't do this. If they won't change... Meh. Gotta have principles.
https://matrix.org/ecosystem/bridges/
You can use matrix and still keep in touch with the lazy people. Having a place for people to go when they eventually get fed up will help a ton.
That is sweet
It should be noted that these only support messaging (including media attachments) but not voice/video calls. I've been using bridging for a few years now though.
Another issue is console integration. I’ve got friends I play with using cross-play (PC-PS5), but the only service we can both use is Discord unless they use multiple devices.
I would love to use Mumble, Matrix or Revolt but it’s the same hurdle.
I'm not lazy. i have matrix up and ready to go. the issue is I can't just force 200+ people to just up and abandon a platform where all their stuff is for one community on that platform.
in order for discord to truly die, it needs a HUGE exodus. as right now, my communities are too well integrated.
basically discord needs the same mass exodus that Xitter had to bsky and the elephant one. its the only hope communities have to survive discord dying.
we're not being lazy. we're trying to not have whole online communities get upended when discord finally kicks the bucket. (and it will. soon.)
I foresee it more as discord keeps operating fine but with even more embedded ads and trash, and people will become numb to it. Hence ipad baby generation being clueless with how it used to be with very little ads on the internet and corporations continuing to profit off of us.
I miss Ventrilo <3
Vi sitter här i venten och spelar lite dota
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xFire. God I miss xFire. It was better 10 years ago than any service before or since.
Iirc Yahoo frivolous-lawsuit'ed them out of existence. Q_Q
12 years ago Skype and team speak were the go to for voice chat for gaming. Once someone comes up with a less shitty platform, everyone will start to migrate again.
It's not that people are lazy, it's that a feasible alternative does not exist yet.
the problem is not that there is no feasible alternative, the problem is network effects.
What is wrong with the available programs out there?
None of them come close to doing a single thing better than Discord, or even at the same level as Discord. There simply isn't an application that realistically competes with any one of Discord's features yet, let alone the entire suite. Every other platform currently available is either a downgrade in terms of features/functionality, or costs the user money (which immediately makes it prohibitive for 99% of users).
Revolt seems to be very close to what Discord offers, at least at first glance. Its Free and Open Source too.
Found the lazy