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Suspected 4chan Hack Could Expose Longtime, Anonymous Admins
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this post was submitted on 16 Apr 2025
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Good. Privacy is a fundamental right, but since that platform is regularly used to doxx people who are simply trying to exist, in addition to platforming and incubating some of the most harmful ideologies, they've relinquished any claims to those rights to privacy, as far as I'm concerned.
The way you're describing it, it sounds more like you believe privacy is a privilege, not a right.
You mean, people who operate a platform where people's privacy constantly gets violated should have a right to their own privacy?
I dunno. I understand your point, but @Telorand@reddthat.com is also kind of right.
lots of rights get modified, curtailed, or eliminated by the larger society based on misuse or misbehavior or other transgressions.
(or positions of power, etc...)
I'd say it's more like a right that's been taken away and they're okay with that.
All rights are privileges, if we're going to be pedantic. This is evidenced by the fact that they can be taken away. Society tends to operate on an unspoken, collective agreement that certain rights should never be violated, but if they were actually intrinsic, we wouldn't have to fight tooth and nail for them.
I'm a moral relativist, so if someone is happy to abuse their right to privacy to harm others or otherwise take their rights away, especially the right to privacy, I don't feel any compunction to draw a hard line and say that the harmful person deserves to keep those rights in spite of their actions.
Those collective agreements include stipulations for what happens to someone who violates other’s rights. They lose some rights themselves.
I know you don't intend for me to hear this, but I heard George Carlin as you typed that. He has a whole bit on rights vs privileges.
Oh? I'm not that familiar with his comedy, but I probably should get to know it. What little I know I like!
aka the golden rule
I prefer the platinum rule of humanism, but essentially, yes.
"Live and let live" obviously doesn't work. 4chan has done so much damage to the world that I wouldn't mind seeing their big players in gallows in the town square.
If you're breaking the law then you forfeit your rights in favor of some much more restrictive ones.
did the moderators violate the law though?