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[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 days ago

It’s a bit alarming to see more Canadian Cons didn’t reject him however,

Beyond just a little alarming. Over 40% of the population basically said "We don't want Canada to survive the next four years" with their vote.

Everyone was in disbelief when people voted for Trump the first time. Then the second time. And look at what's happened there. A total collapse of their country.

Ironically, PP is the man of "no confidence" when it came to Trudeau. Yet, PP lost a 30%+ lead. Talk about no confidence! They should be kicking him out.

but after 3 liberal terms it gets harder and harder.

This is frustrating to hear, because I know this type of thinking can affect voting.

The reality is, if anyone is suffering during their day-to-day life, they need to squarely blame their Provincial and Municipal governments.

We keep voting for conservatives who impact our daily lives, but blame the federal government. Education is key to inform future voters of how each level of government affects them.

[-] Dearche@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago

It's pretty bad. I was talking to someone who voted Cons yesterday and he was saying how Trump was actually doing the US economy a ton of good and that all the numbers from the stock markets to the bonds, trade numbers and all else were either temporary bumps or unimportant.

While it's true that stock numbers don't reflect the actual markets, they do reflect market confidence and has a high tendency to match what the market actually ends up being several months down the line.

I've come to realize that Cons rely on the fact that their supporters simply listen to their messages without paying any attention to other signs of what's going on, which is why they can flatly lie about whatever they want and people actually believe them. Because they don't want to internalize anything that suggests that they are wrong.

As someone who voted Liberals this time, I do strongly believe Carney is wrong and misguided on many points, but voted for him anyways. Because someone who is wrong a part of the time is far better than someone who is wrong most of the time. That a partially bad direction is better than someone who will run full steam ahead into the biggest ditch he can find while running over the average Canadian on the way.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 days ago

It’s pretty bad. I was talking to someone who voted Cons yesterday and he was saying how Trump was actually doing the US economy a ton of good and that all the numbers from the stock markets to the bonds, trade numbers and all else were either temporary bumps or unimportant.

"Okay, but except for all those things, what have the Romans ever done for us?"

(Although there's a bit of artistic licence in the original)

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Education to inform voters? I wonder which party routinely tries to reduce education funding....

[-] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You can seize the means of Production and lose society to those who own the means of Reproduction (of society): communication. Media, culture, education, history, and Law are just as fundamental to society as ownership, and as a shaper of motives, has more inertia, therefore momentum.

American oligarchs have a long lever into Canada through ownership and influence of our media, both legacy and online. We are going backwards without fixing that.

[-] Dearche@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Don't forget the Canadian oligarchs that are doing "god's work" in Canada as well. Most of the private Canadian news outlets are owned by these billionaires that actively squeeze out every cent from their own base while convincing them that it's for their benefit with unabashedly one-sided reporting.

It really reminds me that all the stuff I say that what the US reminds me of 1930s Germany or Italy actually applies to Canada as well to a frighten degree.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago

Beyond just a little alarming. Over 40% of the population basically said "We don't want Canada to survive the next four years" with their vote.

No, that's going way too far.

Bear in mind that although you might be focused on this election as a single-issue voter, lots of other people don't share that focus. When there's polling specifically about whether Canada should join the US the positives are in the below-10% range, comfortably into "just crazies and loons" territory. But a political party like the Conservatives have a wide range of positions and people can find them compelling in various ways. Conservative voters also want Canada to survive, they just have different opinions from you on how to accomplish that and what "survival" means.

I'm quite happy that the Conservatives didn't get into power, I think Carney is the right person to be leading Canada right now. But let's not jump to painting people we disagree with as being all a bunch of lunatic monsters.

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

You're full of shit. As per the link, 30% of Canadians polled "would consider annexation if offered US citizenship and conversion of Canadian financial assets to US dollars."

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago

Speaking of being full of shit. As per that link, you're going to great lengths to cherry pick "favorable" results out of the wide variety of options that the polls covered.

Also, that link is from 16 January 2025. Trump hadn't even been inaugurated yet. Do you realize just how big a shift in Canadian (and global) opinion has been going on in the time since then? The whole point of the article this thread is attached to is mocking how Poilivere's party has lost, a result that's in large part a result of the increase in Canadian identity and patriotism that's followed in the wake of Trump's attacks once he was in office.

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Abd your stance is that 2/3 of the people who would already be fine with that idea were also completely unaware of the complete shitshow that the second Trump presidency would be and that they wouldn't be defending that stance? Poilievre had a campaign manager wearing a MAGA hat, was asked a question about his stance on campaign employees doing such stuff, and he blathered on about the Liberals and taxes, and they still got 40% of the vote. But please, do go on and tell me how 30% of Canadians being okay with joining America is unreasonable.

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