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Didn't we learn as children that stereotypes are bad and hurtful? Like why is this one an acceptable thing to lump all men together under the same group? The rhetoric rarely makes a distinction. It lazily doors not differentiate the different problem groups within that and stops at blanket statements that cover more people who aren't the issues than are.
When you treat an entire gender as the enemy, stop being surprised when the young men are increasingly not acting like allies.
The power of rhetoric being forgotten is probably my chief criticism of the “purity test” wing of the left. Perfect being enemy of the good is very lost on people who seem not to want to acknowledge that even things they don’t like might have nuance.
I don't think that the original tweet is really getting at stereotypes, but rather pointing out how frustrating it must be to not know who's going to be a scumbag and who is not.
It's not all men, most certainly, yet chauvinism counties to be (an increasing problem). One of the (very make dominated) places I worked had to put up signs that read looking versus leering: know the difference. I'm male, and I most certainly get the frustration after hearing more than a few first hand accounts about how women are routinely mistreated.
The original tweet is a response to people who are annoyed at being stereotyped. I get it. I have daughters I wish didn't have to worry about this shit. But I also think we're not addressing the problem the right way. It's actually making the problem worse and isolating people enough that they fall to the sway of fascist propaganda.
If you take this same tweet and swap out men with [your minority racial/religious/gender group of your choice] it'll probably get you banned in most communities here. But it's about men (generalized) so it is for some reason allowed.
"If you take criticism of aggressors and swap it out to criticize their victims instead, it pisses people off."
No shit, Sherlock! That's because aggressors are different than victims.
Fuck off with your bad-faith 'gotcha' question.
TIL that understanding context is "shilling for a narrative." 🙄
You know what's really "disingenuous post modern subjectivist bullshit?" Pretending that victims become aggressors just because they act in their own self-defense. And that's what the "not all men" whiners in this thread are doing.
Bad faith is applying the same bad rhetoric/logic to two groups and acting like it's perfectly fine and reasonable in one instance but really awful in the other. Especially if one group is literally a subset of the other.
It's not a "gotcha", it's an attempt to make you realize what you're doing. "Men" as a group aren't "the agressor", neither are "black men". Prejudice is bad, universally. No exceptions.
The entire problem was illustrated during the "man or bear" conversation. If your first reaction wasn't "Wait, I should listen to why women are saying 'bear' in droves" and instead was "what the fuck that's bullshit" then you're part of the problem.