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Thousands of users wanted it, so Firefox delivered it. Tab Groups are now live to help you declutter and stay organized while browsing.

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[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 day ago

Can someone at least help me understand what tabs have that bookmarks don’t?

If i have more then 4 tabs open i get anxious because i can’t intuitively remember what each does. I have folders for categories of bookmarks.

[-] TheBeesKnees@lemmy.sdf.org 38 points 1 day ago

It's a combination of things... I'm a software developer, so I'll often end up with 20+ tabs open while resolving a problem.

  • I don't want to bookmark them because I don't need them when I finish the task.
  • I can't close the tabs until I'm sure everything's working because Google sucks these days and who knows how hard it'll be to find the source again.
  • Relying on browser history is like finding a needle in a haystack. Tasks can take multiple days and 100 different entries in history.
  • I might have "finished" a task that still needs tested and I know it's a bit shaky; I'll want to move onto a new task but keep the most useful references until I no longer need them.
  • I only bookmark pages that I'll need long-term or multiple times. It's already hard enough to keep those organized...

My tab hoarding has only gotten this bad because search engines are terrible now and the amount of AI garbage to sort through makes finding anything useful a pain in the ass the first time; let alone trying to find it a second time.

[-] Uebercomplicated@lemmy.ml 5 points 22 hours ago

I have the same workflow. Usually, I never have more than maybe three tabs open, but when I'm debugging something.... oh god. Easily 15 or 20.

I also bookmark extensively, and actually have my address bar set up to only give me suggestions from my bookmarks. Additionally, I use a tiling window manager, which makes managing windows and tabs very easy. I really don't have a use for tab groups, but, who knows, maybe I'll learn to use them someday.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 hours ago

I also bookmark extensively, and actually have my address bar set up to only give me suggestions from my bookmarks.

This is what people don't seem to realize they can do... You can literally create a bookmarks folder that you never look at again, only search through using your address bar.

You can use a tab stash extension to turn all of your open tabs into bookmarks if you want to preserve what you had open that session. Then you can search through those bookmarks in your address bar.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago

Relying on browser history is like finding a needle in a haystack.

Oh sweet Satan, yes. I wish somebody could explain to me why browser history is so awful.

[-] gaja@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

I can't stay productive with 20 tabs or applications open. I waste time searching. I feel drained if I'm working on a tough job and need something that is hidden. Maybe it's on another desktop. Maybe it's open in another instance. Maybe it's not even open. Not for me.

[-] TheBeesKnees@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 15 hours ago

I feel you, and agree with most of it.... buuutttt I think it's even more frustrating to know you had a good reference that was closed and then spent a stupid amount of time to find again.

Everyone has their own workflow, whatever works.

[-] Artopal@lemmy.ml 0 points 18 hours ago

You need Tab Stash in your life.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 0 points 1 day ago

Maybe a better solution is to stop using Google...?

[-] TheBeesKnees@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 15 hours ago

I have, mostly. The search engine wasn't the point; they're all pretty terrible these days with the absurd AI spam everywhere.

[-] lime@feddit.nu 19 points 1 day ago

if i bookmark something i will never look at it again

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 hours ago

You don't have to, my dude, you can set your address bar to search through them.

[-] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 6 hours ago

through titles sure. but that's not what i need from any site.

[-] RedSnt@feddit.dk 7 points 1 day ago

I only find my saved bookmarks randomly by typing something in the address bar and the bookmark popping up as the first result.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Isn't that the best way, though? I'm searching for something, but now I don't need to do a web search because I've saved the link to it already. And I didn't have to dig through a long list to find it.

[-] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 9 hours ago

if only there was a fuzzy content search included. usually i don't remember the page, or the topic, but just like... a quote.

that's actually a good use for this local ai stuff, take the contents of pages i bookmark and auto-tag it based on that. for that matter, archive the contents as well.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

nb will do that for you whenever you create a bookmark with it.

nb embeds the page content in the bookmark, making it available for full text search with nb search and locally-served, distraction-free reading and browsing with nb browse. When Pandoc is installed, the HTML page content is converted to Markdown. When readability-cli is installed, markup is cleaned up to focus on content. When Chromium or Chrome is installed, JavaScript-dependent pages are rendered and the resulting markup is saved.

[-] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 8 hours ago

that is... pretty neat. is there some way to get it to interop with a browser's bookmarks?

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

You mean like syncing the two? Not that I know of. The most you can do is open nb bookmarks in the browser. If you know how to do any shell scripting, there's probably a way to export your browser bookmarks and then import them into nb. I'll have to research this.

[-] RedSnt@feddit.dk 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Oh yeah, when it comes to bookmarks I gave up trying to organize them into folders a long time ago, and I now try to add a few keywords/tags to the description to hopefully get the bookmark when I type in the address bar now.

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

You are entitled to this but I don’t understand why it makes a difference if the icon is above or below the url here.

If you have bookmarks hidden, thats an argument for a pretty bookmark manager.

[-] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 1 day ago

i use bookmarks for sites i access frequently, like a speed dial thing. i've set up my bookmarks toolbar to be in-line with the address bar and icon-only, so that it blends in with the rest of the interface. if i'm just going to go back to something one time i leave a tab open until i get time.

[-] sheridan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I keep tabs open for active projects. Once the project is over, I bookmark them for future reference.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

I’m the same way, I think it’s just a younger generation thing where they never close tabs and can have 100+ open at once

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Yeah, older folks remember the times before browsers had any kind of memory management w.r.t. tabs. And you had maybe 8GB RAM (and that would have been considered beefy). The browsers themselves were also, more often than not, just straight up memory leaks. The longer you kept the program open, the the more RAM it would take until it broke.

No shot you could run up anywhere near those numbers of tabs before your entire system would get bogged down and eventually the browser would crash (and you'd lose them all)

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 3 points 1 day ago

You’re on of us then!

I, and many others, start closing stuff when there’s more than a handful.

Others, like many, just run then forever and ever. A sea of icons, tiny and compressed. Worrying they’ll lose that tab they really like in amongst the clutter. Unaware of the history feature.

[-] unmagical@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
  • History shows everything I've ever been to including the "nope that top result in my search engine actually didn't contain the search string anywhere in its contents and is thus useless to me." pages
  • Bookmarks are for things I routinely go to for years
  • Tabs are useful results for the projects I'm working on now.
  • Pinned tabs are the pages I visit multiple times a day.

None of those is a substitute for any other.

I'm aware of the history feature. It doesn't do what you seem to think it does (keep a tab in suspension in an easily accessible location over multiple hours or days of browsing).

Now, the OneTab extension? That's actually suitable for this purpose. History doesn't do what it does.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

You might have a valid point if history fucking worked.

[-] wolfinthewoods@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

I can't stand having more than maybe 5-6 tabs open. As the poster above stated, it just gives me anxiety to have random tabs open. I get disoriented trying to figure out what my focus is in a sea of tabs.

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 day ago

Exactly, and if its important you just bookmark it.

I tend to shorten my bookmarks to just a space so in practice they are just a row of tiny icons anyway. They are always at the same spot and only take resources when needed.

I would love a vertical bookmark sidebar but for some reason we have to reinvent the wheel with tabs.

[-] Artopal@lemmy.ml 2 points 18 hours ago

The bookmarks are already vertically aligned in the side bar.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

If i have more then 4 tabs open i get anxious

You are alone on that one. Virtually everyone I know, I look over and they have 50 tabs open LOL

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