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[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 month ago

So glad they worked so hard in office to actually prevent the genocide

https://bsky.app/profile/dropsitenews.com/post/3lnvbkrokvk2p

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Headline aside, the thread pretty clearly outlines that the US side were doing everything to prevent an actual genocide, even suggesting the neighboring arab states secure the gaza strip temporarily.

The major quotes about genocide being the plan were by the Israeli military veteran and ambassador to the US Michael Herzog, not the US.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

the thread pretty clearly outlines that the US side were doing everything to prevent an actual genocide,

Because there wasn't an actual genocide in Gaza already? If they were trying to prevent a genocide they were failing miserably.

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[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 1 month ago

No its literally biden doing his best to let it continue

https://bsky.app/profile/dropsitenews.com/post/3lnvbkvojms2p

Further on

10/ ➤ He also revealed there were internal discussions in Washington about Biden giving a speech to pressure Israel politically, possibly triggering new elections there—but Biden backed off.

And

17/ 5. Biden Backed Israel Even After Netanyahu Publicly Undermined & Insulted Him

➤ Biden once told Netanyahu he was “full of shit,” and hung up the phone mid-call. But as Ambassador Tom Nides put it: “Biden saw [Netanyahu] as a manipulator, a magician… But he stood by him through the end.”

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

The fact that you can type all that and not see the truth of my words is astonishing. I don't pretend the Biden admin approach was good, but he very clearly did not want a genocide.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 1 month ago

Which parts od ot do you think are positive for biden?

Which parts do you think show he was against the genocide?

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

He never once promoted or sought any Israel single state solution and was openly speaking with neighboring islamic states about ways to maintain Palestine in some meaningful way. He withheld large bomb shipments that Israel paid for, the intention being to keep them from being used on the raid of Rafah. Biden would spend large amounts of time on the phone with Netanyahu, often swearing and criticizing him. The aid pier distributed millions of pounds of food directly to Gaza Strip, quite the "empty gesture" that other commenters claim.

You all might think that amounts to nothing, but it's a hell of a lot worse now that Biden is gone and Trump is in charge. I place the blame squarely on the criminal Israeli leadership, Netanyahu should have been removed from power when he was tried for corruption several years ago.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

He withheld 2000lb bombs but eagerly sent them everything else, even to the point of ignoring our own laws.

Biden would spend large amounts of time on the phone with Netanyahu, often swearing and criticizing him.

And yet gave him everything he wanted and covered for Israel in the un

The aid pier distributed millions of pounds of food directly to Gaza Strip, quite the "empty gesture" that other commenters claim.

That seemingly lasted only long enough to help do a military raid into gaza.

I place the blame squarely on the criminal Israeli leadership, Netanyahu should have been removed from power when he was tried for corruption several years ago.

Agreed. Although notice it didnt do anything to stop Biden from working with such a piece of shit.

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[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Agreed.

It always warms my heart to hear how hard it was for Democrats to actually wield power when they had it, especially when Trump is giving a master class on the possibilities. It reminds me of all those times they asked us to empathize with how hard it is to legislate, conveniently, whenever we asked them to do something about the widespread impoverishment of people and the increasing cost-prohibitive pricing of food staples.

They always, always lean on excuses.

[-] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah when was the last time you heard the excuse that "we just have to keep arming Israel because of geopolitical alliances?" They sure dropped that one quickly before morphing into blaming individuals for not further supporting it at the ballot box. No criticism for the 15 months of this under Biden. No criticism of the actual fucking Democratic candidates who chose to support this in their campaigns leading up to their entirely predictable losses.

It's just excuse and scapegoat after excuse and scapegoat while they let the world burn around them because it's good for their polling numbers in the next election.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 month ago

If you look in this thread you'll find one saying exactly that.

of course Biden couldn't stop, they're our biggest ally/if we stopped arming them their neighbors who Isreal keeps provoking and attacking would invade

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