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[-] mke_geek@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

That's like saying grocery stores are a "scam".

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No because at grocery stores, you get a product.

With renting, you are paying for landlord's mortgage. You don't even get to own anything.

Also, grocery stores do operate like a scam in certain cases, for example price gouging during a pandemic or other disasters.

Are you a landlord?

[-] mke_geek@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

With renting, you're paying for a place to live and store your stuff. That's a product. It's a physical thing you can touch.

With food, you use it for a while then it just goes down the toilet in the end. Does that mean you should stop eating?

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Is it though? You get the same home and get to own it if you had enough down-payment. The only thing landlord has the renter doesn't is the capital for down-payment.

Once again asking, are you a landlord?

[-] mke_geek@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

There are people who can't save up for a down payment and therefore wouldn't be able to responsibly take care of a house even if they were given one.

There's people who don't want to own a house. A house comes with a bunch of costs and responsibility.

  • Your furnace goes out in winter, bam, that can be an expensive service call or several thousands of dollars to replace.
  • Your sewer line backs up because of tree roots on a Sunday or holiday and now it's several hundred dollars to get a drain company out there.
  • Need a new roof? That's a $5,000+ expense all at once.

These are just a few examples. There's quite a number more. Some people like knowing that expenses like that are covered by someone else.

In the grocery store example, there's people who like growing their own food. For others, they'd rather someone else do that even if they're paying a markup to buy it from a grocery store, because they can get everything in one place.

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Once again asking are you a fucking landlord?

[-] mke_geek@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Swearing at someone doesn't foster discussion.

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

mao-aggro-shining still didnt answer my question

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

We don’t talk to landlords, bye bye!

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

60-65% of households in the USA are homeowners, either outright or through a mortgage. 80-90% of households in Eastern Europe are homeowners. It's pretty clear that people who are perennial renters are mostly people who cannot clear the financial hurdle of a down payment. I don't think the "some people don't want to" line is a solid argument. It's the exception thata proves the rule.

The repairs and property taxes and mortgage all add up to a total that is less than the rent, on average. Otherwise, landlords would have a disincentive, and every landlord would be operating at a loss.

The points you made are points that landlords use as justification for their occupation/position. Are you a landlord?

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