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why are they ordering him back?
And yet, that's not what happened.
It is though. What do you think happened?
Because they believe the stay of deportation overrides the illegal alien act that was used to deport him. That's up for debate, and hopefully will go through the courts to get a final ruling - though on the face of it it seems like it doesn't override it, so they were able to deport him.
It isn't though. You know what happened.
Spoiler, the us isn't at war
Ok so you disagree with them invoking the act that legally allows them to deport these gang members. Now we're getting somewhere, and now we can see why you believe that "due process" wasn't followed.
What happened is what I said happened. If you disagree, feel free to explain what you think happened. If you don't/can't, then we'll assume that you agree with what I said happened.
He's not part of ms13 by any credible means.
Nope, what happened is what i said happened. I've said my part already, you're welcome to assume whatever you want, doesn't make it any more true
2 separate judges/courts disagree with you, and somehow I think they probably had a bit more to work with than you do.
Right his finger tats. I forgot 🤣
You think the 2 separate courts/judges decided he was MS13 in 2019 based just on those finger tattoos?
No, because they didn't
They absolutely did:
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/04/16/kilmar-abrego-garcia-ms-13-gang-member-history-violence
Got anything from a reputable source? The DHS is no longer reputable thanks to trump. It's a fully propaganda page now.
The dhs article is referencing the previous court cases. Here is one where it was determined he is MS13:
https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1396906/dl?inline
This was appealed and a separate judge came to the same conclusion.
Even pro-Garcia articles make many references to those court cases.
That's your proof he is ms13? A blurb saying "someone" said he is?
The 2 judges saw confidential information proving his MS13 affiliation. This combined with the other evidence - hanging out with self confessed gang members, gang tattoos, wearing the same gang affiliated clothing as the self confessed gang members, etc - were enough to convince 2 separate judges he is a gang member.
Why do you think you know better than them? You didn’t even know these documents and rulings existed lol
Also it’s not my proof - it’s the judges and immigration and DHS’ rulings.
Guilty by association, gotta love it!
I did, they are unconvincing, especially considering he had a stay, to not get deported. Yes I know there were 2 countries listed in the stay. It's bullshit. If he IS a gang member, he still needs to be tried, and found guilty of a crime
lol seeking asylum yet hadn’t even tried to begin citizenship pathways in the 14 years he’d been in the country illegally.
Funnily enough the stay of deportation was because of MS13 rival gangs targeting him lol. Bit of a weird one if he’s not MS13.
Right, because gangs never bother or harass non gang members.
Just another coincidence for Garcia I guess. A coincidence that he was picked up hanging out with self admitted gang members. A coincidence he was wearing known gang clothes while with them. A coincidence he has tattoos that can easily be read as MS13. A coincidence that he says he can’t go back to El Salvador, MS13s home territory, because of MS13s rival gang wanting to kill him.
This guy is just a walking talking coincidence, all with the same gang. What are the odds?!
It could very well be, yes. Guilty by association is not how to do things
And it’s not how they did things.
Except for its how they did things.