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If so, what are some misconceptions or seldom known facts?

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[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world -1 points 6 hours ago

Support for eu trade was high enough that yanukovych campaigned on it. Are you saying that's not true?

Also are you saying contracted Russian soldiers weren't in luhansk and donetsk in 2014 and onward?

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 hours ago

"Yanukoviych ran on trade with EU, therefor it's OK to violently suppress dissent" is certainly a take.

Also are you saying contracted Russian soldiers weren’t in luhansk and donetsk in 2014 and onward?

"Are you saying there aren't communist spies in America?" -SkyezOpen defending McCarthyism.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world -2 points 5 hours ago

Misrepresenting my stance and refusing to engage with the points isn't the win you think it is.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 hours ago

Just because it's not framed in the most generous possible way doesn't make it a misrepresentation

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago

Lol, who was it that taught shitlibs like you that anyone not immediately agreeing with them is equivalent to "refusing to engage with the points". I engaged with your points just fine, they're just bad points.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world -2 points 4 hours ago

Mccarthyism is accusing with little or no evidence. There's piles of evidence of Russian involvement. Hand waving doesn't make it disappear.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 hours ago

There's piles of evidence of communist spies operating in America during the cold war too, mate.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world -2 points 4 hours ago

So you're saying it's all fake?

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 hours ago

Are you saying there were no communist spies in the US during the cold war?

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world -3 points 4 hours ago

Are you allergic to making hard statements? You accused me of mccarthyism, which involves accusing people with little to no evidence. There is evidence of 6,000+ Russian regulars in Ukraine in 2014. That's not "dissent," it's an invasion. I'm not saying there weren't genuine separatists in those regions, I'm saying it was hardly an organic movement.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 hours ago

"there were Russian operatives in Ukraine, therefore all dissent is illegitimate and can be crushed with lethal force."

If you can't understand how that is the same as justifying McCarthyism by saying their were communist spies in America, it's because you're being willfully obtuse.

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