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Away from Beijing's lofty rhetoric about defending Palestinians, Chinese firms are helping to sustain illegal settlements.

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[-] Joncash2@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 week ago

Do you want China to be another USA? Because interference with the open market and manipulating other nations with tariffs and sanctions is something China promises not to do unilaterally, unless they are attacked in the same way. Thus, China cannot interfere with normal Chinese-Israeli business. Does that mean construction materials and labour will go to construct things where the Chinese government itself may not want? Sure, but it also means the Chinese will never cut you off unilaterally.

The only way to change this is to petition the UN for global sanctions. But USA will clearly block anything with help from their allies. China simply refuses to take any market distorting actions, and like it or not, construction is absolutely normal business activity.

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago

Okay but it still sucks no matter how you spin it.

Do you want China to be another USA?

obviously fucking not lmao

[-] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Of course it sucks. As long as the US and it's allies will continue to block any global action, China cannot make a move or risk reprisal from those nations as well as lose the trust it's been building up with the global south. It's nice to imagine China as an all powerful big dog, but in reality China has a lot of weaknesses it has to play around. And on top of that, it's promise to BRICS and the global south is that China will never play favorites means it can't act or lose trust. The trust which is tenuously built since China refuses allies.

The real question you should ask yourself is whether or not China is right and we must move to a multipolar world. If you agree with it and that we should not have a super power hegemon, then sadly blood must be spilled to usher in a new world. And China promises to help construct it no matter who is in charge.

Now, that all said. My personal opinion is I partly disagree. I don't think the bloodshed is worth it. I also don't see another path. It's clear China had chosen to do this regardless. But that means a lot of wars as the world police goes to sleep. Which sadly means we are going to see a lot more genocides.

[-] woodenghost@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

How much can the contract to send 6000 workers be worth to China? Do they really need the money that bad? They could just not aid the zionist colonialism. Not doing anything would be better than what they are doing. Not even fucking Germany is sending 6000 workers to literally build colonies. I know, they sent weapons instead, which is worse, but still. You can't frame this as a strategically necessary decision of China. That's ridiculous.

[-] Joncash2@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

It's not about the money. It's about conducting normal business regardless of who they are. That's China's will. If it was about money, China wouldn't have just kept sending free money to Palestine through out the war.

In the beginning

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/china-says-provide-2-million-humanitarian-aid-gaza-2023-10-26/

In the middle

https://english.www.gov.cn/news/202403/21/content_WS65fb793fc6d0868f4e8e54c8.html

This year

https://english.news.cn/20250219/a55206ed362944b49c23f362cee8527f/c.html

So should China stop sending aid in addition to sending workers to Israel? If China does something for one side, it will do something for the other side. Neutral is neutral.

[-] woodenghost@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh, so with that aid they paid the Palestinians for the stolen land on which they build settlements for fascists? Did the Palestinians agree to hand over this land in exchange for some food packages? No? Well than that's just like aiding a thief and then throwing some pocket change at the helpless victim as they lie on the ground. Wondering how the value of these construction materials and all the work hours compares to the aid.

So should China stop sending aid

Ridiculous straw man argument and false equivalence.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

China banned drone sales to Ukraine and Russia so they definitely do apply trade restrictions when faced with pressure to do so.

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